Tucker Carlson Exposes Jan 6th Lies

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by LevelUP, Mar 7, 2023.

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  1. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Liars can be super calm. This is especially true if they are psychopaths, sociopaths, or are simply lacking empathy for a certain segment of the population. Example: I don't think that Russia is 100% populated by psychopaths or sociopaths, but there is still a huge segment of the population that has 0 empathy for anyone non-Russian. Especially, right now, Ukrainians.

    Liars can also be excitable. A certain party in Germany in the early 20th century had a figurehead that would shout at crowds to get them riled up and excited.

    People telling the truth can get worked up, especially if they perceive that people aren't believing them. Especially if someone is attempting to gaslight them. Or they're recounting a traumatic event. Someone who has just been through a bank robbery or a plane crash may get extremely hysterical.

    People telling the truth can be calm. They've got a PowerPoint presentation that shows all the facts and now they must present it.

    Calmness (or lack thereof) has little bearing on whether someone is telling the truth or not.
     
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  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    What Tucker seems to be trying to do is to prove a negative. The negative, at least as I understand it, is that bad stuff didn't really happen on January 6. That is bad things like insurrection and policemen being attacked. While doing this he seems to ignore the fact that 140 policemen were injured defending the capital. That we've all seen violent attacks on police recorded on video. That many have pleaded guilty to crimes committed at the capitol on January 6. That many have been convicted of being guilty of crimes committed at the capitol on January 6. That some have even been convicted of committing sedition on January 6.

    My conclusion is that Tucker has already failed in trying to prove this negative. Further my conclusion is that LevelUP is not thinking rationally when he watches Tucker Carlson on TV and posting about it in this forum. Perhaps LevelUP can explain to me what I'm misunderstanding and correct any misunderstanding that I have?
     
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  3. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    You can vacate a guilty plea.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I had a bag of troll feed somewhere, now where did I put it? Oh, well.....
     
  5. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

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  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This response from you is further evidence making me believe that you are not thinking rationally about this.

    quote:
    • More than 1,000 people have been charged with crimes linked to the January 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection.

    • Over two years later, at least 476 people have pleaded guilty in connection to the riot.

    • The FBI is still attempting to identify people from the Capitol siege.
    More than 1,000 people have been charged with crimes since supporters of then-President Donald Trump violently stormed the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 election.
    https://news.yahoo.com/450-rioters-pleaded-guilty-role-192624008.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACdkKRfXF3eUgiOmRgyhVXUcvti9apiW-ylqeSKlle_InlR54da1-9jD_Na5iMcXTbF5Cl3pTPXwGBkmKNQF-PFVtXKrID7vmfe4wGLGqhJIuaqt9LUWvz333HYlKefsfdTK6eCmmhxkQwRTWeYbSTO5E0xwFy7xw4qVX6JodNAc

    You want me to also search for video of rioters attacking police or have you seen such video? You want me to also search as to how many have been convicted? I also note that no one arrested for January 6 are Antifa contrary to the lies spread by Fox News and Tucker Carlson right after January 6.
     
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  7. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It is absolutely ridiculous for Tucker Carlson to claim that the police were giving tour guides during an insurrection. Because so many believe his silly lies it makes it obvious that LevelUP is not alone in not thinking rationally and critically while watching and listening to Tucker Carlson spread his silliness. His show is for entertainment and he tells lies, it is not the news!

    Fox News has stated in court that Tucker Carlson's show is NOT a news broadcast.

    quote:
    Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

    She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."
    You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers
    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

    LevelUP, according to Judge Vyskocil, you are not a reasonable viewer. You are instead believing exaggeration and non-literal commentary to be news.
     
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  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's more that he's not a reasonable person according to Fox News, which is far funnier.
     
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  10. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

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    JUST IN: Censored video re-emerges of Jacob Chansley reading Trump’s tweet, telling protestors to GO HOME and remain peaceful.
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1634332829860646914

    If Jacob Chansley is set free, that will be another sign that MAGA is winning the culture war. This isn't about Jacob Chansley. It's about power. Who has the power now?
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    He will complete his 41 month jail term soon. He has a July 9, 2023, release date. And when he's released you think that means that somehow MAGA is winning something?

    I'm thinking now that my assumption that you aren't thinking rationally is incorrect. It seems more likely now that you are just not thinking at all or maybe just trolling?
     
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  12. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    July 9, 2023, isn't 41 months. They did require math to earn your degree right?

    And don't send me a Wikipedia link. A Wikipedia page can be created by anybody and often contains errors.
     
  13. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    You're quoting Twitter. A tweet can come from anyone and often contains errors.
     
  14. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    I quoted Elon Musk. He isn't some random nobody.
     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  16. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    That doesn't look like an official government website.

    There is no parole in federal prison. You can get some days off your sentence for good behavior but nowhere near 12 months after 24 months served.
     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Regarding your question about federal sentencing guidelines perhaps this sentencing tool might be helpful? I didn't play around with it, I just noticed it on the website we're talking about.

    https://inmateintake.com/
     
  18. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    You haven't just been quoting Musk. But, considering some of the stuff that Musk has done, he's probably worse than a nobody.
     
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  19. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    True. I don't know who those people are on Twitter. They just happen to have the Fox video short clip that I'm looking for.

    You all may not appreciate the extra time it takes to find the exact short clip relevant to the story. I don't think anybody here, no matter how much they love Tucker Carlson, wants to sit through a whole hour of the show just to see a few minutes of video that is relevant to the story.

    These days, people seem to appreciate short clips of 30 seconds or less enough to grasp the main point.
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    "The Tucker Carlson 'bombshell' reporting on the January 6th video comes down to examining Zapruder footage of JFK being alive and Lee Harvey Oswald calmly entering the Book Depository and deciding it was all a hoax." - Dan Roche
     
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