Too many online adjuncts?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by SurfDoctor, Mar 23, 2010.

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  1. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Surely you can provide evidence to document this causal link to one of the most vital issues of our time.
    Maybe a plot of economic indicators vs. degreeinfo postings by month.

    The Nobel Prize in Economics awaits
     
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  2. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    No but another recently completed project has directly correlated global warming to a most unexpected source...

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  3. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Astounding! So the way to counteract carbon emissions is to steal more boats?
     
  4. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Well, it couldn't hurt. Especially since my recent efforts to think globally by acting locally have failed to offset the warming trends...

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  5. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    My current school has been giving two courses per term, which is alright. Personally, I would rather just have course so I can give participants more attention. Furthermore, since I already have a busy schedule two classes per term is pushing it. But everyone is different.
     
  6. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Don't worry, the fate of mankind as we know it is in good hands:

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  7. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Well played.
     
  8. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Argg, you blokes have taken my thread down a strange rabbit trail.
     
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  9. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Also, I think I trust the guy on the left more than the guy on the right! :) (sorry, couldn't resist)
     
  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I trust the parrot on the shoulder of the guy on the left more than I trust any politician.

    Sorry. Back to reality. So what are the courses that are having the least and most trouble in either filling positions or overfilling positions?
     
  11. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    LOL Love that picture.
     
  12. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Actually, prison guards and toxic waste handlers make way more money...
     
  13. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I agree that people competing for adjunct positions are mainly Masters and PhDs from low tier schools. However, as salaries for adjuncts keep going down (in real terms as they don't adjust with inflation), I don't see people going for the Capella, NCU, Walden, TUI PhDs in the long term. It wouldn't make sense to spend 50K for an education that might pay you only 5K extra a year. The reality is that the ones benefiting from this are the online schools, they get to charge small fortunes for their degrees but then get to pay peanuts for their labour as the same graduates that they produce come back wanting to work for peanuts.

    Yes, there are some Capella graduates that made it for these positions. But these are just the carrots that drive the other hundreds of students that probably will never make it. The problem with Capella, NCU, TUI, etc is that they are in the business of producing PhDs and they do it in the order of hundreds a year while traditional schools only produce a handful. The market for PhDs is not that strong so I really don't see these schools keeping up with these numbers.
    The motivation of their students is the reports from AACSB and media in general telling them that the demand for business professors is huge. However, it is going to be the PhDs from T1 that get the tenure positions and not the Capellas for the vast majority.
     
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  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Oops, yes it is 48 hours. Online teaching is actually not difficult for the most part. Most online schools use canned online classes so there is no preparation time or research involved. The time consuming part is the grading and discussion. As the courses are prepackaged, there is no need to be a PhD or even masters to teach these courses, schools require a high level of education just to meet the accreditation requirements but the job doesn't require this level of skill.

    The automation of education is a bit scary, the reality is that with the current model, it wouldn't take long before they can figure out a system to grade assignments automatically and provide instant feedback and the just hire an instructor to baby sit multiple classes at the same time.
     
  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    And tuition will still continiue to rise...
     
  16. bazonkers

    bazonkers New Member

    I think professors have already figured that out in B&M schools with the TA model.
     
  17. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    I believe that's why the old California-approved version of Cal Coast used multiple-choice exams so often, even for graduate classes. They can be scored by machines or by clerical personnel equipped with an answer key. Reduces expenses.
     
  18. scaredrain

    scaredrain Member

    I have to agree with you. I am an adjunct at a non profit private university also and they are now going towards the prepackaging of course shells in order to reduce prep time and to cut the stipends they once paid to instructors to do course prep. Of course with pre-packing the creativity of learning is squeezed out. The only thing I get to customize at this particular university, is which two discussion board questions I will post from their instructor's course guide.
     
  19. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    That would cut your preparation time to nearly zero, but it would take away any real creative contribution you could make. Do you have the opportunity to interact with your students much? It seems like the current trend makes you more of a facilitator than a teacher.
     
  20. scaredrain

    scaredrain Member

    I get to interact with students on the discussion board. This particular university is considering purchasing a license with either WebEx or Adobe Connect so that we can hold live lectures and meetings.
     

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