And yet strangely, like so many Canadians, he's moved here. I love you guys, you can all come here as fas as I'm concerned, but it's almost like this existential dread you all are talking about isn't quite such a deal breaker after all. This whole thing that I've never lived in Canada so I just can't imagine how thrilling single payer is, OMG, please stop. Everyone in the U.S. 65 and over has single payer, including my mom, whose healthcare I see first hand since I take her to her appointments (at 85 she has a lot of them). I can see that single payer works, so far as it goes. And no, none of your stereotypes of Americans has anything to do with what I'm saying. In particular, I've never understood national pride (George Carlin's bit about that is pure gold). And I've said more than once here that the health care system in the U.S. is a corporatist mess with ties to employment that make no sense, etc. But even if I thought M4A (single payer for everyone) were the best alternative to the present system, it's unaffordable. The U.S. federal government has already gone off the rails in borrowing money unsustainably -- 22% of all U.S. dollars that exist were created in 2020, and we're still only in October. So when M4A would nearly double the federal budget, and there are benefits that people, especially at the bottom, could get from various market reforms, I'm not sorry for believing we should try the latter first.