Should Elizabeth II be Canada's Elizabeth the Last?

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You can count on ALL the cops knowing how to say this: "Do what I say or I kick your HARSE. An' dat's for SHORE!" :)
     
  2. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Barbados is not an overseas territory. Sadly, it had the queen as its head of state, like many other "independent" nations, including Jamaica. I can't wait for the day when Jamaica will remove the British Monarchy as head of state. It's so ridiculous when we claim to be independent since August 6th, 1962. We need to become a republic with a president as head of state and government or a ceremonial president as head of state and a prime minister as head of government.
     
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  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I mean sure, there's no reason to keep them. But while I understand the terrible optics of maintaining even a purely ceremonial connection to the monarchy, in terms of issues that actually impact everyday Caribbean people's lives, this doesn't even make the list. Establishing the Caribbean Court of Justice as a regional successor to the Privy Council as the court of final appeal was a lot more meaningful.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Britain has long, varying, and not-always happy relationships with its former colonies. Their desire to stay in the Commonwealth and, thus, retain the monarch as head of state will be a country-by country decision. They must also consider what other benefits the Commonwealth has to offer. Or the opposite, since some are not too happy with Brexit. In fact, Brexit threatens to split up the UK itself.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Indeed so. And IIRC thirteen of those colonies were on what has now been US soil for close to 250 years. I think that might have a lot to do with why many Americans think a Royal Family is "weird" or generally don't like the idea of one. Memory seems to persist through generations, sometimes.
     
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  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yet here we are, lusting after false royalty.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Novelty, perhaps. As for me, I do like those two. Nice family. I don't like Harry's brother very much, though, but Kate and her sister Pippa both seem like fine people to me. They have five children between them - and it's all over today's news that that Pippa and her husband James Matthews are expecting their third child. Congratulations to Pippa and James.
     
  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Some years ago Prince Third in Line and his spouse toured Canada. They made time to visit Los Angeles and hit the network news while chatting with some group of dismally poor people. Acting and looking just exactly like a good royal couple should act and look. Irate, I shouted at my TV, "Those are OUR dismally poor people damn you! Go find some of your OWN dismally poor people to chat up!"

    Boy you give those royals an inch and they'll take a kilometer every time! ;)
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Kim, Khloe, et al?
     
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  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Membership in the Commonwealth does not require having the UK monarch as head of state, and the majority of its members are republics.
     
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    What? Dismally poor people in Los Angeles? Can't be! In the city where THESE neighbourhoods are?
    • Paradise Cove Bluffs / $82.6M. ...
    • Beverly Park / $32.5M. ...
    • Holmby Hills / $27.2M. ...
    • Serra Retreat / $23.3M. ...
    • Bel Air Estates / $18.5M. ...
    • Beverly Hills Gateway / $17.5M. ...
    • Malibu Colony / $15M. ...
    • Brentwood Park / $13.9M.
    NO! You must be mistaken, Nosborne. I believe these "Dismally Poor People" are professional actors, who answered a Studio Casting Call for the event. .:rolleyes:.
     
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  12. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Well, LA supposedly has 66,000 homeless people living there full time.

    I confess it here for the first time...I absolutely LOVE Los Angeles! All my life I've dreamed of living there in the way so many Americans dream about living in NYC. I'm a Westerner. New York is amazing but L.A. for me all the way! Alas, I could never see a way to make it work. Probably just as well, though. I never needed to part with my illusions.

    By the way...my natal village, Seattle, is now about as expensive as L.A. to live in. Good lord, WHY?
     
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I would indeed have liked to see you in the cast of "L.A. Law" - It was my all-time favorite series in the 80s-early 90s. You would have been great! :)

    I, too, love Los Angeles. But I think it's like my love for a Brazilian model. It's probably best for both of us that I love her - and L.A. - from a distance.
    And so -- I do. Neither she, nor L.A. will ever know. :)
     
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  14. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    LA Law was my second ex wife's favorite show. She was a very capable lawyer. What I could never figure out was how that firm could maintain such beautiful and expansive offices and pay the partners so well when they were handling just two or three cases at any point in time. Contrast that with the managing partner's illegitimate half brother lawyer (CalBar school?) running a personal injury firm out of a seedy store front. HIS waiting room was full of clients!
     
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  15. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Guess who would drive the Porsche in real life? Right.
     
  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    You could move to The L.A. of the North, Johann...Vancouver BC!
     
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Hm. There IS money in law, folks, and not just on Wall Street. But you need to work very hard, be pretty smart, get lucky now and then, and have a granite heart.

    There's a lot of money to be made but the pressure sometimes drives such lawyers to substance abuse, health problems, and an early death. I've seen it all and that's one big reason I went into the public sector.
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Great city - and surrounded by beauty. Many of the inhabitants are hardened ex-Ontarians (or their adult kids) who escaped hard economic times here and don't like more refugees from their former homeland. We're the people they escaped by moving west. They don't want us in their paradise. And I don't know how pensioned-off riff-raff like myself would make it, economically.

    The average detached home price in Vancouver is $2.381, 150. In 2019 a 2-bedroom apartment averaged 2,915 and a one-bedroom cost 1,828. I'm paying one-third of that for a one-bed here - but I've been here 18 years and rent control is my friend. It ends when I move. My apartment will cost more than double to the next tenant. My neighbourhood of choice would be Kerrisdale. This what it would cost me: "Over the past month, the average rent for a 1-bedroom apartment in Kerrisdale increased by 8% to $2,250. The average rent for a 2-bedroom apartment increased by 18% to $3,485" Yeow!

    Homelessness is WAY less than LA. In 2020 2,095 residents identified as homeless. 547 of those people were living on the street. Maybe I could get a side-gig... :)
     
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Hey, I've GOT one of those! I'd practise nothing but divorce law. Strictly women clients. Make them happy, get rich -- no danger of substance abuse etc. Sleep like a baby! :)
     
  20. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Maybe the homeless can't afford to live in Vancouver!
     
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