Sad day. CIE closed.

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by nosborne48, Aug 1, 2023.

  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    The school was founded in 1934. It offered correspondence diplomas in electronics technology and was an early NHSC, later DETC, then DEAC accredited institution. I took a diploma and later their AAS degree and had no difficulty selling them in the marketplace. I don’t know what finally killed the market, whether the declining need for technician level workers or increased competition from community colleges but it really is the end of an era.
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  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    My take:

    (1) Progress. ICs etc. Nothing broken is fixed - yanked and replaced. Or the whole device is junked. Good for manufacturers. Bad for technicians.

    (2) Degreeification. Some tech schools - those that taught maintenance, repair etc. found it difficult - or impossible to get on the degree-wagon and navigate the degree craze. And that's exactly what it became. A craze.
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  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I think that's probably right. CIE offered really excellent lab experiences at home but that got expensive and as you say component level repair is largely history.
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    What's next? X-ray glasses? The Charles Atlas course? Sea monkeys? It's getting so you can't buy anything from the back of a comic book anymore.

    RIP, CIE.
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Seen the price? It's getting so you can hardly buy a comic book any more. As a kid, I remember 10 cents for regulars, 15 cents for "Classics," when I got here in 1952. In England, we didn't really have comic books at that time. We had comic weeklies, like "Beano" and "Dandy" in tabloid-format. And the famous "Eagle." That one a kid could learn a lot from. I loved the cut-away racing car diagrams... the BRM etc...

    About 15 years ago, my eldest grandson (he was 9, I think?) discussed this. He was telling his Dad "No. I'm not reading a comic book. This is a graphic novel."

    Me: "Do you know the difference between a comic book and a graphic novel?
    Grandson: ", not exactly. What is it, Grampa?
    Me: About $5.
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  6. sideman

    sideman Well Known Member

    You asked for got it....still available for a limited time!
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I knew those ads had been around a long time, but I didn't realize that Charles Atlas himself died of old age over half a century ago. Talk about a marketing campaign with staying power!
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Sad, I earned diploma from CIE long time ago.
    Loved their concept and correspondance, DL
    Hard to compete with DL offerings without significant overhaul.
    Theory can be learned via Coursera, EDX etc for 50$ toa class
  9. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Oh. Well, that is really sad...
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Charles Atlas or CIE? Oh -- both. Indeed. Charles's birth name: Angelo Siciliano. But you knew that, right?
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Please don't say that, Steve.... he was 80, just like me. And I'm just not ready yet. :) Oh, I will be, but it's gonna be a while, I think. Actually, Charles Atlas died of a heart attack, which occurred while he was hospitalized for chest pains. In the last two years of his life he had been experiencing these pains after exercising.

    When I was a young whippersnapper of 72, I had a lot of those pains. I was lucky. I got them really badly in a stress test, at the hospital. About six doctors examined me on the spot and sent me right upstairs for same-day bypass surgery. No pains since and my cardiologist says not to worry - she's got people in her clinic who are 95. I think if medicine had been like it is now, when Mr. Atlas was hospitalized in 1972, he'd have had a few more years. But that's just my take.
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  12. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know that you post on this board? I'd hate for anything to happen to you and not know about it.
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes. You'll not miss the DI party. There'll be a cake for sure. :)
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  14. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Sad day indeed.
  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I was hoping you were referring to the Canadian Institute of English. Darn it. :emoji_unamused:
  16. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

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  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Canadians speak English? I thought they spoke Canadian.
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Canadians speak everything. Take a bus ride downtown in my city. You'll hear 18 languages on the way. Arabic, Hindi, Tagalog, Spanish, Chinese, Yoruba, Urdu...

    50 years ago a Canadian comedian (I think, Don Herron) quipped "Toronto's a bilingual city - Italian and Portuguese." My, how times have changed. From "Backgrounder to Toronto" site:

    " Of the 1,286,140 immigrants in Toronto, 55.7 percent were born in Asia, up from 53.5 percent in 2016. The three birth countries with the highest proportion of Toronto immigrants were the Philippines (10.3 percent), China (10.1 percent) and India (7.9 percent)."

    I like this.... gives us a cool factor we didn't always have. We need that.
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And here's the famous pic of young Eric Clapton reading Beano. I have that record (John Mayall's Bluesbreakers). Bought it in the 60s. I was a confirmed Beano reader as a kid in England.

    Beano is habit-forming. A "gateway" thing. Leads to guitar playing... I know.
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  20. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Two words: "Yidlife Crisis". Season 1.

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