Riots in UK

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/04/uk/uk-riots-rotherham-southport-intl/index.html

Rioters attack hotels used to house asylum seekers amid worst UK disorder in years
By Radina Gigova, Duarte Mendonca, Mia Alberti and Sophie Tanno, CNN

"CNN's Elliot Gotkine reports rioters in the United Kingdom set fire and broke into hotels used to shelter immigrants and asylum seekers in Rotherham, as the country grapples with the worst social unrest it has seen in years.

The violence was triggered by the stabbing of three young girls in Southport, northwest England, earlier in the week. The far right has seized on and spread a wave of disinformation, including false claims the attacker was an immigrant, to mobilize anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant protests. Police say the suspect was born in Britain."

Brits fedup with what is happening?

 

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Highlights from The Times column by Nadhim Zahawi:
How the British dream of integration can survive
Link: https://archive.is/dxckB

The warning signs have been present for years, but for every person who tried to tip-toe through the minefield of topics pertinent to this disorder — society, culture, religion, disenfranchisement, racism, the speed of change, feelings of powerlessness — there were ten more who wanted to bury their heads in the sand.

Even I, a brown man born in a Muslim country, feel the need to caveat what I say, and hide behind facets of my identity such as the colour of my skin (facets that I largely consider unimportant) just to pass comment on things of importance to my country. The alternative is to be accused of insufficiently condemning the obviously condemnable by those who want to weaponise these issues for their own ends.

...Others, such as the author Douglas Murray, have been brave enough to warn that if the proper authorities do not grasp the nettle on issues of social cohesion and uniform upholding of the rule of law, then mobs will. He did not say this with glee but in deep lamentation. This prediction has come to pass, and politicians of all stripes (including myself) must take responsibility for not trying harder to defuse the tensions. What else did you expect when every winning manifesto promised lower migration and every government ramped up the numbers, while refusing to allow enough houses and infrastructure to be built, and the bien pensant classes accused anyone who criticised this as racist?

...But too many from outside these shores refuse to integrate upon arrival, to learn the language and to learn the ways of this place. They, or their communities, refuse to allow themselves to feel what Roger Scruton called oikophilia, a love of home. The British, and other English-speaking peoples, are wont to look on things in our “homescape” as we look on persons, not as means only, but as ends in themselves.

But the scale of new arrivals of sometimes very different cultures necessitates a robust encouragement towards oikophilia, an encouragement that has been completely lacking in Britain. This led to ghettoisation and resentment between natives and recent arrivals. To suggest that this isn’t happening, and that concerns about the changes to local neighbourhoods isn’t legitimate, just because you have foreign friends in your middle-class bubble is as ludicrous as saying: “I’m not racist because I have a black friend.”

 

The murderer is a British citizen of Rwandan descent. The far right rioters are white supremacists. Employers are telling their Black and Asian employees to work from home. I saw an Asian man on the BBC who was told to work from home. I know a Black British person who was told to work from home. They're afraid to go outside.

A good sign is that large, peaceful anti-racism protests were held today. Many of the UK's immigrants come from former British colonies or commonwealth nations. If some of the British hate non-White people, then maybe they shouldn't have colonized half of the world.

 

I just remembered - Sunak had the stupid plan to send refugees to Rwanda. So, it's okay for the UK to send its refugees to Rwanda, but it's not okay for Rwandans to move to the UK even though they're members of the commonwealth? White supremacists aren't exactly the brightest people.

 

My take on this issue is different and it not necessarily related to white supremacy.
This is anti Islamist riots, it's directed at Islamists.
And yes migrants, especially of Islamic faith.
Didn't read about attacking Hindus, and the rage was clearly and primarily anti Islamist.
Culture where women are beaten, tribal rules and customs, loyalties are incompatible with existing good or bad culture.
The issue is pressing in many countries over EU.

 

My acquaintance is an atheist, and she was told to stay home. I don't know what religion the stabber follows, but Rwanda is 94% Christian. The rioters are racist, xenophobic, and dumb. I've seen the mugshots of the arrestees, and they look like the Aryan prison gang members in the U.S.

 

Anti-Islamic and anti-immigrant protests.

 

He's not an immigrant. He was born in the UK. What do Islam and immigration have to do with the mass stabbing? The people on the far right are idiots. The article you posted says they were rioting based on incorrect assumptions and disinformation. They're racist, xenophobic, and Islamophobic. You keep trying to justify the violent hate crimes committed by these tatted up, white supremacist gangs.

 

Exactly the point, tragically the people use any excuse, because they are fed up with the problem.
There were other incidents in the past involving Islamist terrorists.
So at this time, sadly, false rumors, caused riots, because people are on the age.
When your neighborhood changed from being relatively safe to being violent, and violence is due to groups that don't assimilate in to society, it creates problems.
I have friends and relatives in the US, UK, Austria, Germany and other countries, I hear their complaints.

 

So, you're for tearing up cities over disinformation from white supremacist groups? Did you feel the same about the Michael Brown and George Floyd riots? And, are you seriously defending committing hate crimes against innocent people? I know you read the article you quoted. These people are committing hate crimes against those who are minding their business.

 

News story: MOB chanting 'Allahu Akbar' ATTACKS Brits in its path as Labour 'EXCUSES the gang of masked THUGS'

"Riots have spread to Brimingham where Reform UK and Labour were in a war of words over so-called 'two-tier' policing for different communities."

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The audacity of Trump cultists criticizing Muslims when they're trying to implement their own version of Sharia law with Project 2025. JD Vance wants to get rid of no-fault divorce because he's mad that women are free to leave abusive and unhappy marriages. When all the states allowed for no-fault divorces, the suicide rate among married women went down. Trump raped and beat up his first wife, he sexually abused multiple other women, and he VERY RECENTLY justified male celebrities sexually assaulting women. Don't pretend that you care about violence against women. If you cared about violence against women and other crimes, you wouldn't be voting for the rapist felon who was close friends with Jeffrey Epstein.

 

Can you show me where in my post, I'm for such a thing? It's not about me at all, it's about what Brits are fighting, for and it appears to be escalating.
When I used the word tragically, it actually shows the opposite.
You most likely misunderstood my post.

Saying that, I do ask you a question, are you familiar with what political Jihad is and the activities of Islamists? This is not some Islamophobia, but a real threat to the Western societies.

 

Good grief. Nice one trying to tie Trump to Epstein (who I believe he had thrown out of his club). Clinton was closer along with a number of other Democrats.

Second....sexual assault. Try Clinton too. And the Democratic party machinery moved to take down accusers such as Jones (Hillary was nasty to her).

Finally, I am no fan of Trump but the Democratic talking points posted by surrogates is that he IS a rapist. Can you show me where he is a convicted rapist?

 

The doctrine of jihad articulates the duty of Muslims to expand the Muslim umma -nation, “to bring as many people under its rule as possible. The ultimate aim is to bring the whole earth under the sway of Islam”
This is interpreted and practiced differently.
Once radical example is Lebanon. What happened there and how Islamists - Hezbollah are holding entire country hostage is what is promoted and enacted, by those who are promoting
Jihad in this form.
The Quiet Jihad and the Political Jihad are in full action.

An emerging network of radical preachers, demagogues, bloggers, and activists are attempting to disseminate extremist ideas among Muslim youth in the United States, UK, EU and obviously Africa. Largely excluded from the country’s mosques, they spread their message on the streets, outside the mosque, in small gatherings in private residences, on campuses and above all online, taking full advantage of social media platforms to maximize their reach. They are a loose constellation of individuals, but have a clear center of gravity in extremist groups that operate freely and openly.

 

Trump wasn't convicted of rape. But, he was found liable for sexual assault. Then another judge ruled that calling his sexual assault rape was within the bounds of normally accepted definition of the word rape. Oh and he's a convicted felon also, 34 counts of fraud.

 

I learned a lot about Muslim terrorist groups for my first master's degree. Yet, you don't see me outside tearing stuff up and attacking refugees because a citizen committed mass murder.

 

I was a child when Bill Clinton was president, and he's not running for office.

The statute of limitations has expired, so the best that could be done was to file a lawsuit. Trump lost two lawsuits to E. Jean Carroll. He also talked about grabbing women by the p*ssy. He recently just said in an interview that's something men just do in the entertainment industry.

The Christofascists aren't much different from conservative Muslims; they just want their abuse of women to be sanctioned by the Bible instead of the Quran.