Republicans: Party of Old White Males; Democrats: Party of Diversity

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Interesting. I suppose it's likely we read different media and that you're paying much closer attention to this than I, but I haven't really seen either Klobuchar or Gillibrand get any press at all, whether good, bad or indifferent.

    Well, then at least you're right about Sanders. ;)
     
  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    So, President Trump is calling for term limits for Congress. Is that a Federal issue or should that be a state-by-state thing?
     
  3. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I don't know who is worse - Tulsi Gabbard or Joe Biden. At least Biden has the excuse of being old and ignorant; Gabbard is the second youngest person in the race and a Millennial. Gabbard's coziness with Assad is weird. It's one thing to have been against gay marriage 15 or so years ago, but she called people supporting marriage equality homosexual extremists. An LGBT group in Hawaii decided not to back her because of her answers to a 2016 questionnaire, and she admitted in 2015 that her views on same-sex marriage hadn't changed. She also supports a far-right politician in India. I suspect that she's still pro-life; that isn't an issue for me, but it's an issue for most Democrats.

    Gabbard is also suspected of being anti-Muslim, and Steve Bannon loves her.

    http://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party

    I can't stand Bernie Sanders, but at least he's not afraid to firmly take a stance. Harris is wishy-washy, but she's a great lawyer. Maybe attorney general would be a more appropriate position for her. I can't stand Warren either, but she's one of the few candidates coming up with specific policies.
     
  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    How old are the Millennials? Are they old enough to run for president?
     
  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Google search says,

    New Guidelines Redefine Birth Years for Millennials, Gen-X, and 'Post-Millennials'
    • The Silent Generation: Born 1928-1945 (73-90 years old)
    • Baby Boomers: Born 1946-1964 (54-72 years old)
    • Generation X: Born 1965-1980 (38-53 years old)
    • Millennials: Born 1981-1996 (22-37 years old)
    So yes, just barely since the requirement is at least 35.
     
  6. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    1981 seems a bit early for millennial status.
     
  7. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the youngest member currently in and the youngest woman ever elected to Congress, will be eligible to run for President in 2024.
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    So, she is going to be 35 in 2024, so she must have been born in 1989.
     
  9. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Like Taylor Swift (also eligible!)
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Pete Buttigieg is a millennial.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's because journalists have been using it as lazy shorthand for "young adults" so long they've forgotten that generations age.
     
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  12. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I think most of the misinformation on Millennials comes from the uneducated Facebook crowd that's stuck in time. The media has correctly labeled Buttigieg and Gabbard as Millennials (some might call them Xennials), done stories on how Millennials aren't buying houses, how Millennials make less than previous generations and won't live as long, and how Millennials will lead companies and raise their children differently. They've also started doing stories on how Gen Z is different now that they are entering the workforce as adults. Despite this, people still stubbornly think that all Millennials are teenagers and young adults. I always find it funny when people in their 30s talk about those darn Millennials. If you at least knew someone who had a Nokia brick phone in high school, then you're likely an older Millennial. Gen Z is the first native Internet generation; they've never known a life without mass use of the Internet.
     
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  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

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  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    New poll out today. I like Sanders seeming to be stalled. I wouldn't have had a problem if he'd beat Hillary Clinton but he's probably a very low choice for me right now. Warren seems to be gaining. I'm rooting for Harris but would be very happy with Warren.

    Biden 35%
    Sanders 16%
    Harris 8%
    Warren 13%

    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2622

    Looking at the details it is interesting that Biden is getting even higher support in minorities. I'll guess because of he's more moderate?

    Still really early though.
     
  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    It’s not my personal preference but I’d bet that a Biden-Warren ticket would capture some interest.
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That would be an excellent way to get me to pray for the good health of Joe Biden.
     
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  17. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Biden vs Trump would be comedy gold.
     
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  18. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The Kamala Harris Town Hall was inspiring.
     
  19. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Following criteria based on topline polls and on number of individual donors, these twenty Democrats have qualified for the first debates June 26 and 27 in Miami. They'll be distributed into groups of 10 each night that are supposed to be roughly evenly matched – the top-polling Democrats will be split up between the two nights, rather than having one main and one "undercard" debate like the Republicans did early last cycle.

    Qualified: Bennet, Biden, Booker, Buttigieg, Castro, de Blasio, Delaney, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Inslee, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Ryan, Sanders, Swalwell, Warren, Williamson, and Yang.

    Not qualified: Second-term Montana governor Steve Bullock: should have declared well before May. 89-year-old former Alaska U.S. Senator Mike Gravel: disruptively punchy antiwar left platform, but campaigned more to raise issues than to become president, and shares his base with Sanders and Gabbard. Second-term Miramar, Florida mayor Wayne Messam: that's a long career jump, and in contrast to the small city mayor who made the debates and is polling at least middle tier, Messam suffered reports about early campaign disorganization. Northeastern Massachusetts U.S. Rep Seth Moulton: has a niche towards the right of the party, his blessing and his curse.
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I'm a little disappointed that Montana governor Steve Bullock didn't make the cut. I saw him on one interview and liked what he said. Someone like Steve Bullock would help move the group a bit closer to the middle. With Biden in first place that probably isn't a big deal though, since he's less progressive than most in the group.
     

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