Record Fine for Grand Canyon University

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Rich Douglas, Nov 1, 2023.

  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Again, we don't have a free market system, especially in higher education. Either way, though, if it's determined that GCU misled prospective students, and gave them an upper boundary of $49,000 for how much the program should cost, then refunding students anything above that figure should be a higher priority than a fine that doesn't actually benefit the students who were wronged.
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  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Yes, I was trying to support your free market system point.

    That is a super good idea about refunding the tuition!
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  3. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Really surprised nobody brought up the Walden and Capella lawsuits. Very similar issues: the schools claimed 3 years for completion. The average student took 6 years. When you're paying $1000 a month for tuition (as you are at those two during the dissertation phase), the difference is enormous.

    In the Walden/Capella suits, the accusations are that the requirements to proceed through each phase would change or were contradictory, so that you could never get an approved proposal.

    It's unclear if GCU has this same issue (which implies malevolence or intentionality on behalf of the school) or it's simply that they promised students could complete their dissertations in 3 years if they completed each course in exactly the time provided, while most students needed more than 24 weeks to get their proposal written and approved, 8 weeks to collect data and run studies, and 24 weeks to write, which is what it appears GCU actually provides them in their 60 credits.
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  4. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Believe it or not Walden kept running through my mind. Honest.
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Walden is a good example.

    Any school charging what amounts to full or near-full tuition for students in the dissertation phase are ripping them off.

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