RA MBA for $3000? Hellenic American University

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by Acolyte, Jan 28, 2021.

  1. manuel

    manuel Member

    I would disagree. I understand the AACSB part. But, calling it a "discount" school is harsh and even disrespectful. When we compare schools only for the prices, we pay astronomical prices compared to other countries.
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  2. Futuredegree

    Futuredegree Active Member

    So stop over thinking it and just go for the other school. A masters degree is a masters degree from a regionally accredited school....
  3. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Active Member

    FYI, at the graduate level, it's extremely rare to be able to transfer credits. At all. Period. If you had 25 credits from Wharton or Yale or Harvard or any other big-name school and had to drop out for financial/life reasons then you'd still have to start over at 90% of the schools out there. It wouldn't matter what accreditation the original school did or did not have. Graduate credits simply don't transfer like undergraduate credits do.
  4. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I think this is overstated.

    None of the schools I've ever researched for myself outright rejected any and all graduate transfer credits. Most limit the number of transfer credits to about 25% of the degree and are extra strict on what they consider to be course equivalencies.

    So, graduate transfer is quite often possible, but with many more conditions and limitations than undergraduate transfer.
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  5. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    This thread is a decade old now but it had transfer credit policies running from 3-12 credits (and in one case 24 but that was out of a 48 credit program):

  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The funny thing about people taking AACSB so seriously is that it's not focused on validating how great a B-school's teaching is, but how good its research is, and a student not interested in academia may not really care about that.

    I gather it's just used as a lazy proxy for excellence because a lot of supposedly good schools have it.
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  7. I really think the issue is self not AACSB, it's confidence. Look, some jobs, like teaching as an adjunct at AACSB school, will care about AACSB. Maybe a handful of big fortune xx-xxx will care, but really, more will look at any non ivy type MBA as a check box towards middle management than a VP position/track let alone the VP track that a ivy MBA will give. That is reality. Job performance, EQ, family connections and confidence quite frankly will have much more bearing on career progression to senior leadership for 98% of people than the pedigree of their degree.

    The utility between a HAU and a GSW MBA, regardless of the AACSB for earning potential for 99% of people will IMHO, be equal. If the adjunct at a AACSB school is goal, it's simple, get the GSW. Just be aware that the college/university that is looking for adjuncts and requires AACSB are just as likely to be snobby about GSW anyhow.

    I have found the discussion around justifying ones MBA, it being looked down upon etc as being a bit weird. I wouldn't subject myself to working for people that look down at my degree or that seek to make me feel inferior. That is begging for a miserable existence and is something 100% in your control. Any employer that does that is also going to abuse you in a million other ways. You job will be one long gaslighting experience.. screw that.

    A MBA, other than the IVY's with recruiters knocking on the door (and even then, not all students get the recruiters knocking) is NOT a degree that teaches you a specific job with a licensing component after that virtually guarantees you a good paying job. It's much too general and only compliments life, professional experience and knowledge. A MBA may be a bit of polish, but it is far, far from being the paper that will open the heavens, get you immediately promoted and a raise. Some jobs will get you small ones, but that is if you are already on the middle management track per say in a gov or fortune xx-xxx job with it being a HR function only. It may get you consideration for a REAL promotion, but if you can't deliver the goods, disappointment waits as you don't get or worse, get and fail and can't learn and recover from the failure.

    TeacherBelgium, friend, you are overthinking all of this and my impression is looking for a degree solution to a career problem. Degree solutions to a career problem means pony up, deep debt or parents paying, for the most high profile MBA program you can get in that is likely to ROI, and without significant resources and connections the top 20 programs are really the only "global ROI" and in the top 50-100 can work in a local market ROI. In other words, take MBA at a solid ranked school, at the school, seek jobs in geographic area of the school.
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  8. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Got a reply from Georgia South-western University.

    My undergraduate degrees are fine for entry but only amount to a cumulative overall GPA of 2.6 (one is at 2.33 which is a diploma on the EQF6 and the other is the associate's degree which American equivalent GPA would be at 3.2 and is therefor much higher but counts for less weight )
    The minimum entry GPA is 2.7.
    I'm 0,1 under it.
    Eneb degree not counted for admission per their dean.
    So GSW has much stricter entry requirements it seems than I thought.

    What I don't understand is why GSW asks for a GMAT but Hauniv didn't.
    Is it typical for the Covid era now to not include a GMAT requirement anymore or is that regardless of the Covid situation?
    I see a lot of schools who waive the GMAT these days.
  9. Yes, many schools are waiving GMAT, gre for covid. You will find that virtually all AACSB masters programs in normal times are requiring a GMAT.. it's a AACSB thing most likely.

    That answer?
  10. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    So will GSW consider you for admission or no?
  11. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    She couldn't give a conclusive answer.
    With enough references yes, otherwise no.
    0.1 too short of the 2.70 GPA is something they take very highly to it seems.
    I was a bit surprised when she told me that I would have to justify myself with a 2.60 GPA.
    Don't know if I will put the energy into finding those references all over again.
    To be honest I don't get why they don't want to take the Ui1 degree into consideration and only want to base themselves on my undergrad.
  12. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    As a propio they may be barred by policy from considering it.
  13. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Sucks though that they are so strict on the 0.1 too short thing.

  14. GSW is pretty clear, a 3.0 GPA and 5 years experience and they will waive GMAT. That doesn't seem unreasonable IMHO.
  15. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Undergraduate GPA of 2.70 is acceptable she said.
    For graduate degree holders it should indeed be above 3.0.
  16. They are pretty clear on website. There are a variety of ways around GMAT depending.

    I disagree that a lower undergrad GPA than a masters GPA should get a GMAT waiver. That's illogical
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  17. Futuredegree

    Futuredegree Active Member

    Seems clear that you do not meet the admission requirements. You have three options, 1) would be to go for another bachelors and raise up that GPA like at Excelsior College, Thomas Edison State University, or Charter Oak State College or 2) search for other programs and hope they accept the low GPA (most programs require a 3.0 for admissions), or 3) just come to Hellenic American University it is a great school. Some of us on the forum are enrolled and are enjoying the program.
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  18. manuel

    manuel Member

    Hellenic American University might be the best option for you to get an MBA and improve your GPA. If you decide later to continue with graduate classes, you won't have the problems of the GPA anymore.
  19. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I want to understand this comment. If someone has a 2.5 in undergrad and a 3.5 in grad school, they should not get a GMAT waiver but someone who has a 3.5 in undergrad and a 2.5 in grad school should get a GMAT waiver? Or did I misunderstand.

    I think since the GMAT is used to assess your capability to do graduate-level work it makes sense that someone already doing graduate-level work would have less need to do the GMAT.
  20. Futuredegree

    Futuredegree Active Member

    I feel like graduate entrance exams do not prove a damn thing unless its for medical school. For business school the GRE or GMAT is just a way to eliminate candidates... Same thing with the LSAT for law school as they are looking for ways to limit the number of people who can get in.. Does not make it competitive honestly it is more so to keep certain groups of people out. That is just my theory.

    Only reason I can back that up is because I complete three masters degrees two from traditionally sit in class schools (John Jay College and Queens College in NYC) and one online at Excelsior College. Now these are not the top schools in the country but I was able to complete the work time after time... These exams wouldn't be able to determine if I can complete them. (On a side note John Jay College has a top 10 criminal justice program in the country which I got my masters in Criminal Justice and Undergraduate in Police Studies)

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