PULC Buy 1 Ph.D. Get 2nd Free

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Dave Wagner, Aug 15, 2006.

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  1. spmoran

    spmoran Member

    Thomaskolter, this is just about the first and only thing you have said on this forum that makes any sense whatsover. But I still don't understand why you insist on bringing attention to your "doctorate". I would have dismissed you as a troll or a shill a while ago, but for whatever reason other people are engaging you (and apparently now I am too). I don't often miss Janko, Douglas and DesElms, but I would love to see how they would have responded to (or chosen not to respond to) you. Alas, they are busy melting down in their new home, and so not available. But anyone who has done the work to earn as much as an accredited certificate knows that your credentials (both academic and now ministerial) are folly.
     
  2. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

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    Actually, I'm only trying to "sell" reading comprehension to someone who apparently doesn't want to "buy" it.

    Dave
     
  3. Mark A. Sykes

    Mark A. Sykes Member

    Actually, that's a quite good idea. Why should holders of degrees that lack only the sheen of legitimacy not also enjoy international academic recognition? In fact, why must one bother with commission and lengthy service in the military to earn the title 'General?'
     
  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

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    In order to "sell" reading comprehension, one has to have it in the first place in order to "give" it to one's "buyers." What did you not understand about the concepts that jokes belong in Off-Topics and degree mills belong in Accredited/Unaccredited/StateApproved? Or did you actually understand the two aforementioned concepts but dispute their applicability to this particular case? If so, I would love to see your reasons why.
     
  5. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I think you've hit on an excellent idea: Dispensing faux military titles for fee. Now anyone can be a Kentucky Colonel... ;-)

    Dave
     
  6. Jigamafloo

    Jigamafloo New Member

    To be honest, NO I don’t “wonder why you look down on accredited education”. It’s pretty obvious that it’s a rationalization for the crackerjack Doctorates you sport. And in the interest of fairness, I’d love to see your Dissertation – if it’s as full of run on sentences, lack of capitalization/punctuation, and misspellings as your posts, it’s bound to be a hoot. To (indirectly) quote/paraphrase you, I won’t be a party to legitimatizing a diploma mill credential. PERIOD!

    Now, to the POINT.

    The top level rant I quoted says/does nothing to address this. You left off part of the citation from the ULC web site:

    “It is up to the individual to determine what is right as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others and is within the law.”

    How does patronizing a prostitute and possibly contributing to human trafficking meet this standard?

    Dave
     
  7. PhD2B

    PhD2B Dazed and Confused

    It's part of ULC's missionary service.
     
  8. Jigamafloo

    Jigamafloo New Member

    For those of you wanting to achieve the same level of spiritual enlightenment, this is the web site:

    http://www.ulc.org/?destination=ordination

    I hope you have better luck than I did, because when I attempted to ascend (instantly) to the level of ordained minister, this is what I received:

    “We are temporarily unable to accept Ordination Requests online. Please check back for more information. We appoligize for the inconvenience.”

    As supplicants, we can only guess at the intent of the misspelling of apologize.......great indeed are the "mysteries" . :confused:

    Dave
     
  9. spmoran

    spmoran Member

    Dave, you started Touro? Do you have any thoughts yet? I'd like to hear them.

    As for the ULC, I was ordained (by someone else as a prank, no less) about ten years ago. But that hasn't stopped me from doing a few weddings for people I care about. I've never tried to use my parking pass and the other cardstock-type-stuff I bought for fun shortly thereafter.

    What difference does it make that someone gets a religious degree from ULC for $100, or someone pays a couple of thousand for a religious degree by attending a religious school? It's still religion. What if all of the Hezbollah fighters had PhD's? Or the Talliban leaders had PhD's? Or the Christian abortion clinic bombers all had PhD's? They would be just about as qualified to perform heinous acts as anyone, because they would have been credentialed. Unfortunately we don't hear too many stories about religious people doing wonderful things for anyone, regardless of religion, with purely altruistic motives. *That doesn't mean it might not happen.* But since religion can be such a divider, as opposed to a mechanism for understanding the world and living in it well, I'd frankly rather that an idiot pay $100 to get a ULC degree with no real exposure to religion than a genius pay $10,000 to to learn all of the intricacies of a way of thought. The former may be less dangerous than the latter.
     
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Is the missionary servicing the prostitute's needs? Or is the prostitute servicing the missionary's needs? Missionary position, anyone?
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    As an aside, temple prostitution has long been a part of religious tradition. Since ULC requires no specific theology, a practitioner would be entirely within that scope to engage in that sort of activity.

    I've never understood why so many religions emphasize chastity. How boring is that!

    -=Steve=-
     
  12. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Indeed. In ancient times, religions revolved around technically correct rituals of propitiation whereby the mere humanoid worshippers request of the goddess (and the god, later) fertility for the crops, the animals, and themselves. Sex with the temple prostitute was then seen as an act of goddess worship. It would be interesting to explore how religions came to emphasize sexual repression.
     
  13. thomaskolter

    thomaskolter New Member

    First of all I have mental and learning diabilities I can do very fine wiork if I have a spell checker, spend a few days going back over my written work, use outlines and other tools. And for my dissertation I did pay for a professional proffreader to go through it and help with the final product. Very ethical and hardly a problem if I was doing any other major written project such as a book to publish nobody would mind. This sort of writing is hard for me its spontaneous so I have to assume there will be mistakes. Another reason I avoided college those deadlines were even harder for me when I had to work several times harder to get assignments done.

    As to the point here I deal only with legal brothels in Nevada or adult women that are independent professionals over the age of consent. For me its no different than if I hired a massage therapist to knead out some muscles. Or a oriental medical provider for an herbal remedy for some illness. Or hiring a contractor to do home repairs or upgrades. As for criminal activities and the trade I oppose child prostitution and street prostitution I see nothing wrong with legalizing the profession like in Nevada. As for now people do many things that are illegal they speed down the street, cut me off at the intersection when I'm in my power chair (and I have the legal right of way) and cheat on taxes. So what is the huge problem with an ADULT hiring another ADULT that is responsible and professional for sexual services.

    I have needs as a man and frankly no women ever showed interest in me so what am I to do not have any contact with women and release which is very healthy and natural for men. I can't even self-pleasure. I have a human right to as an adult enjoy that part of the natural world just like anyone else. I have a friend from Iraq that is burned over 60% of his body and his fiance left him his only contact is with an escort who is one I recommended. What is good about depriving the disabled and undesireable people physical sexual release? I think critics who demand that are cruel. So yes as a man of faith, reason and who is also respectful of people that have a hard time with getting physical and emotional release with another person intimately I have NO problem with some areas of prostitution at all. Child prostitution of course, forces prostitution and street prostitution in many cases in the United States true its a problem but not all in the trade. Does that make sense?

    And please look at the ULC Seminary Program a bit that's all its not that easy and we do take the program seriously, and where else can you take courses in WICCA and Druidism and the other areas of faith plus Christianity. They are even planning a Reiki Healing course in the future that might be fun. And most courses take 4-6 months to complete it must be pointed out now offer a degree for them each is a bit much (although legal) but the MINISTRY degrees are pretty respectable. But like I said its a religious credential and should be seen as that not so much an academic one but its hardly a mill we are trying to get an organized educated faction for church minstry and thought. I hope to be more the latter than the first but for me the thought and learning aspects are harder maybe that is why I seek to learn all I can.
     
  14. spmoran

    spmoran Member

    Ok. That's enough for me. Gotta go now...
     
  15. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    This is me not responding.

    Hasta la vista,

    Dave
     
  16. thomaskolter

    thomaskolter New Member

    Fine then but I didn't go there first if it got off topic I was happy to talk about religious degrees and are they acceptable under this policy. But no more replies from me either.
     
  17. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Hey, why be a hypocrite? If we're going to make it legal to abuse women for a monetary fee, lets legalize it all! Free enterprise is free enterprise, you know.
     
  18. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Actually, you were the first to mention that you have sex with prostitutes and you were the first to mention that you are a minister. Someone wondered why.
     
  19. Jigamafloo

    Jigamafloo New Member

    (Scurrying to the exit) Hold the door!

    Dave
     
  20. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    If one is not getting any sex, that should be one's first clue that Darwin is trying to weed him/her out of the gene pool. Survival of the fittest!
     

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