Pro-Trump mob infiltrates US Capitol

MBFS may over value the lack of any failed fact checks, especially when the news site has zero fact checks?

edit: I think that I may be saying the same thing as Steve in the previous post?

 

Excerpt form an article:

Jonathan D. Sarna, University Professor and Joseph H. & Belle R. Braun Professor of American Jewish History, Brandeis University
Fri, January 8, 2021, 3:14 PM PST
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It always was a problem when supremacy groups piggyback on right movement. One of the reasons my friends criticize me for being on a right .
I respond there are radicals on both sides, that majority on the right are not racists.
Still the events on Jan 6th have deep affect/jolted me.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/04/kavanaugh-supreme-court-protests-washington

https://www.wcpo.com/news/national/activists-protesting-kavanaugh-flood-senate-building-comedian-amy-schumer-among-those-arrested

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"?

 

Of course, this is absolutely true that only a minority of the right are racist. Why does Trump pander to them then? Because, they are not an insignificant minority but much more important, they are some of his most fervent and loyal supporters. Trump in public when asked to reject the racists instead asked them to stand down and stand by. He thought that he might be needing their services. For example, he called on them January 6th to help him try to take by force, to fight like hell, to get what he wanted, which is to stay in power.

 

The motives of the mob are unimportant anyway. A jury will have to decide from all the facts and circumstances whether Trump incited a mob to attack the Congress. If not, he will be found not guilty of that charge. If yes, who the mob was won't matter. All of this assumes that Trump will be indicted. I expect he will be unless he and Pence reach an accommodation.

 

38 Times President Trump Has Condemned Racism and White Supremacy

 

It was not really 38 times that Trump condemned racism and white supremacy by my count. Maybe half that since they counted multiple times most occurences. But let's say it was 38. He keeps getting asked this question simply because he keeps contradicting himself on this issue.

 

Because I think that every one of you takes yourself far too seriously, I thought I'd share a piece that came out today that places it in humorous perspective:

Column: I took part in a pro-Trump attack on the US Capitol and now I have to face consequences? That’s tyranny! - Chicago Tribune

As for the rest of you - all of you - I think you need to get a life.

 

Hypocrisy and double standard of the media is part of the problem.
This is just another example why people gravitate to alternate sources of information.
Now all Conservatives and Republicans are facing Salem style witch hunt.
Like the Soviets would expel people from Universities, jobs etc, whats next Gulags?

Where are the "terrorists" from Seattle and Portland etc.

 

Can't agree with you this time, Dr. L, though usually I do. A violent attack on the congress is a deadly serious matter.

 

I just find it remarkable that Trump is inciting violence by saying "go home with love and in peace" while Pelosi literally said, "I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. And maybe there will be, when people realize that this is a policy that they defend." about a policy held by both the Obama and Trump administrations about migrants, yet she gets reelected as Speaker and faces no charges.

 

Both are deadly serious.
Attack on Seattle and occupying it , attacking the local law enforcement, burning and looting government and privet property for long time, sending message that no one is being punished for this.
Well unless you are Trump supporter.
Both attacks are wrong and deadly serious.

 

Okay, Mr Whataboutism, I looked up, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. This is apparently what this current whataboutism was talking about? The Riot on January 6th cost 5 lives and THE CAPITOL was taken over and vice president, speaker of the house, and others were threatened with death by a chanting vicious crowd! When a 16 year old was shot and killed the police took back the few blocks of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone the day after. Your ridiculous assertion that because no one was punished means that the poor poor Trump supporters are being picked on just because they support Trump!? Murdering a policeman by beating him to death with a fire hydrate is {expletive deleted} Taking over the capitol compared to the stupid Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone is not reasonable whataboutism, Mr. Whataboutism. What the fuck does one thing have to do with the other for god's sake!!!! Sorry for the foul language but my head just exploded.

 

Look, folks, there are two solid objective facts we mustn't lose track of. 1) 8 days to President Biden; and 2) Democratic control of both Houses of Congress.

 

The question remains like after any change following the elections what will be the future of the USA under the new administration?
Time will show.