Pro-Trump mob infiltrates US Capitol

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  1. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    It's like the statues, fires, looting, beatings, hate hoaxes, and killings of the past year never even took place o_O

    Keep lapping up the NPR, Yahoo, and CNN I suppose.
     
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  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The followers are on all sides, there are people who believe their leaders and ready to protest for their believes. Some are simply bored and ready to go crazy others are more ideological.
    Ask yourself why are we not a UK? Because as you know we ha d a revolutionary war (1775–1783), gaining independence from British crown objecting to being taxed by the British Parliament, a body in which they had no direct representation.
    The Colonies defeated the British, I'm sure there were some who were against this and loyal to the England, the king etc.
    The Americans adopted the United States Constitution, establishing a strong national government which included an elected executive.
    Yesterdays events are condemned by majority of the Americans, the vandals goals was to disrupt the certification count. This is unacceptable and as we know law enforcement is going to arrest the vandal rioters.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Watch the clip and you will see. Also on Twitter yesterday some Republicans alleged this.
    I'm suspicious as you noticed.
    I hoped the protests will be peaceful. I knew that there are extremists on both sides and provocations a counter protests were a possibility, even some unrest as a result of tentions.
    But this I wasn't expecting at all and strongly condemn.
     
  4. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    Don't grovel to fascists.
     
  5. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    No doubt about it. But the most telling issue is that after both sides pointed fingers at each other for months, negotiating for months while the very Americans that pay their salaries were losing everything, only to finally make a decision that was too little (literally) and too late (literally), people are still willing to go out and kill each other over those so-called leaders. Where are they leading people but off a cliff?

    Hearing these capitol hill ghouls cry on camera about the possibility of them being attacked falls on deaf ears for me. After what they've done (and didn't do) over the past year (and honestly far longer than that) I couldn't care less what happens to any of them just like they didn't care what happened to any of us. There are thousands of reasons why citizens of this country should've stormed the capitol and a number of other places a long time ago. The fact that it happened for this was just a wasted opportunity that will change nothing and only give these government fiends more resolve to tighten the noose around our necks. Listening to them speak post-riot tells you that's exactly what they intend to do.

    Listening to Lindsay Graham express bewilderment over the lack of security has bolstered my suspicions. The fact that security was so poor given the timing with the Iran threat and the 1/6 protest that had rumblings before the day came, both of which Federal authorities knew fully about, I find it hard to buy at all that protection wouldn't have been high priority to stop a number of things and certainly a bunch of mostly unarmed people on foot, unless the security was poor on purpose...
     
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  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Dogs grovel, I guess in Russian this would mean - не рычи so I dig it.
    I don't consider Trump and most of his supporters are fascists but some are.
    Maybe authoritarian. But he doesn’t quite fit the definition of a fascist.
    To be a fascist, one must support the revolutionary, usually violent overthrow of the entire government, and reject democracy entirely.
    He certainly posed a great challenge to liberalism and liberal democracy but as we can see he is soon to leave the office.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This is complete garbage. A you tube channel that is not even known by Media Bias/Fact Check
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=victory+channel

    I trust your opinion far more than some silly nonsense like this. Get a grip. The only thing that would make sense in your post is calling them twits. But unfortunately it was probably just a misspelling of tweet as twit.
     
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Well , on the house floor you can hear similar opinion. Look at 5:28 on this video.

     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Video shows Capital police cops opened the barriers to let the protestors in. 6:28 S in to the video.

     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I looked at the phillyantifa.org site listed as some kind of proof on the lame victory youtube channel. The pictures of people on the phillyantifa.org site are people the site calls nazis and skinheads not antifa types. What a bunch of nonsense. You really need to stop trying to get news from sites like this.
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

     
  12. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    In skimming all of the usual media suspects, there is a tremendous amount of hypocrisy going around on whether or not riots, violence, and destruction of state & federal property are justifiable on political grounds.
     
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  13. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    The fascists are the ones who are trying to destroy all the things you value, not the "Trumpists". They are the disingenuous leftists, and you should not give them an inch. Don't think for a minute that they are your friends.
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Bill, I understand but if their video from the congress shows the representative saying that antifa was involved etc,
    That's a real video, who care about the source?
    The content in this example is the focus of the post. Maybe its also on CNN.
    So always interested to hear responses to the content not necessary about the provider.
     
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think differently.
    First of all we are Americans and we share this country that we love.
    You know that in the military, emergency responders, such as MD's, nurses, clergy, policeman and many more there are left and right and anything in between.
    I'm interested in keeping the status quo. When I'm seeing a doctor I'm not asking hem about their party affiliation and their political views, or what lifestyle they are following.
    United we stand.
    I'm for unity and violence free debates. This is the democratic way.
    So not giving an inch in my book is the activity via education, negotiations, debates, protests and electing people who we send there to represent our interests, the city, county, state, federal find a common ground.
    We have to work with courts and agencies.
    When people reserve to violence, terror and intimidation they enter a cruel never ending circle because there is always someone who thinks they are more righteus.
    We have to follow the constitution. And pray and trust God.
    We are free but not free to kill each other.
    “You shall love YHWH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
    Blessed are the peacemakers.
     
  16. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I was not referring to NTD, according to mediaBiasFactcheck NTD is about as good a source as Fox or MSNBC. That victory youtube channel is useless garbage.
     
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    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  18. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Since mediabiasfactcheck considers The Young Turks "mostly factual," I'm not sure how I can take any of their ratings seriously.
     
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  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    On the other hand, imagine how non-factual outlets that score worse must be.
     
  20. Thorne

    Thorne Member

    They also say Slate has highly factual reporting https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slate/

    Seems...uh...wrong
     
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