PHD/DBA External Student easy Doctorate/Dr Promotion

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  1. steveneurope

    steveneurope Member

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    Hello There!

    Do you know a recognized University in Europe / USA where someone can just write a dissertation on his own (as external student) and then submit it after 2 or 3 years?

    I heard a lot of stories about this promotion path but unfortunately I do not know where those students got their Dr degree.

    Thanks!
     
  2. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

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    Most of UK universities and colleges offer Research Doctorate; while some offer Doctorate by publication. Usually Doctorate by publication is only offering to the university member. For the research Doctorate program, you have to enroll into the program; however, there is no specialty course works instead research courses and writing dissertation/thesis.

    https://www2.le.ac.uk/research-degrees/phd/management/distance-learning
     
  3. SteveFoerster

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    As an aside, this struck me as pretty funny.
     
  4. Stanislav

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    I have to agree here. Pretty funny.
     
  5. Kizmet

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    Sometimes people think that a dissertation-only Doctoral program is "easy" but the truth is that it might actually be harder than one in which coursework comprises a hefty proportion of the program. Typically, the minimum time allowed for such a degree is 3 years, and that's if you're working at it full-time. Part-time doctoral study can be expected to last 5-6 years. As TEKMAN said, most British universities offer such degree options. Here's an excerpt from the University of Leicester site

    https://le.ac.uk/study/research-degrees/what-they-are/phd
     
  6. steveneurope

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    Hello there!

    Any option in low cost countries like Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, etc?

    Thanks!
     
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    Do you speak Hungarian?
     
  8. Johann

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    If you do speak Hungarian - then you know what this means: Kérjen valakit Magyarországon.

    Here are a few sites in English (there are plenty more) on PhD opportunities for foreigners in Hungary. You have to be there, I guess, as I found absolutely zero Distance Opportunities for business degrees - or doctorates of any kind.

    https://www.findaphd.com/study-abroad/europe/phd-study-in-hungary.aspx
    https://www.phdportal.com/countries/degrees/537067541/doctor-of-philosophy-in-hungary.html
    https://www.phdstudies.com/PhD/Hungary/
    https://www.postgrad.com/study-in-europe/european-countries/study-in-hungary/
    http://www.scholarshipportal.com/phd/scholarships/hungary

    Not exactly the cheapest either, it appears. The least expensive good doctoral programs seem to be South African. There may be the odd degree-by-research option there, but don't expect to throw a canned dissertation in the mail and walk away with a degree. If you do get one that way, send it back! It's a dud! As I said, Hungary's not the cheapest, so I've include one on scholarships, to ease the pain.

    And you probably know what this means too, right? Próbáld meg saját kutatást végezni.
     
  9. Johann

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    Another possibility. Nicaragua. I've known of one or two Americans who have had pretty good acceptance of doctorates from this school: Universidad Central de Nicaragua / Central University of Nicaragua. The University has legitimacy in its own country ...with or without recently-acquired offshore accreditation - and according to a knowledgeable on-ground DI poster in Nicaragua, it's "real" in every sense of the world. I'm not sure I like some of the dual-degree pacts it has made with other schools (which might not be as good as UCN itself)but I'd have nothing against a UCN degree on its own.

    They offer instruction in English and I'm told the fees are reasonable. Doctorates by Research? I'm not sure - but you could have a conversation with them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_University_of_Nicaragua
    https://www.ucn.edu.ni/

    I don't know why I can't locate an English page. (I'd swear I've seen one.) If you don't read Spanish, use the Google service to translate.
     
  10. Stanislav

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    Here's one (from what appears to be their Austrian agents):
    http://www.businessschooldirect.info/degree_programmes/phd_programmes
    Both PhD by research and by prior output are advertised.

    As an aside, while these programs seem to pass the GAAP test, I am not 100% convinced they can be called "credible" in all situations. Probably will work for adjunct positions, can be printed on business cards legally; beyond that, anyone's guess is as good as mine. If I am to seek another doctorate for employment purposes, I'd probably pass on this.
     
  11. Johann

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    And well you might pass on it, Stanislav, especially considering the august and immaculate nature of the degrees you already hold. :) I should note that the people I've read of getting good reception of UCN doctorates had unassailable RA Bachelor's and Master's prior to UCN and were already well-established in their careers - definite advantages. Without such a sterling record, more people might look askance at a foreign doctorate - who knows?

    Me? Well, I'm not crazy about the vigorous promotion by overseas agents, dual-degree programs with (lesser?) schools or offshore accreditation, which some who really know this business have called um... less-than-meaningful. That said, I can't say that UCN is not a "real" school. It's a private university and in some circumstances the degrees of such schools don't have the same standing as "mainstream" (public) ones. Nevertheless, licensed and legal it appears to be and on-ground, professors are teaching and students are studying. We had a seven-page thread on UCN a year or two back and the consensus of the expert pack was that the school was definitely legitimate. Opinions varied a bit, understandably, on how good it was or wasn't.

    The OP was looking, as so many appear to be, for the oft-sought "quick cheap doctorate." (Sigh.) Too many of us live in an age of instant gratification, where expedience is prized over quality. At this level, I'd say one could do worse. And we wouldn't want that. Oh no, never....
     

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