Ph.D. with only 48 credits?

We do not all have to agree on things but we are all highly educated individuals. There is no need to stoop to low blows and such. Let’s respectfully disagree and move on.

 

Based on what Steve said, which I have confirmed, you are way beneath my level! Keep fooling yourself. No response needed. You need to grow up (you're here arguing with someone in their twenties... LMAO).

 

Dear Dr. Douglas,

Ive been accepted to a Doctor of Medical Science but am worried the utility will be limited as I desire to get into hospital administration. The Liberty’s PhD in Public Administration looks very appealing with military and first responders discount. I also teach and do clinical research. Any thoughts appreciated as I value your insights. Feel free to PM as well.

 

Have you considered a MHA? The Masters in Healthcare Administration, I feel, would coincide quite nicely with moving into an administrative role at a hospital.

 

I'm happy to respond here. Since you're interested in a particular outcome, it would be helpful to talk with people who have actually done the degree and put it to use. Also, because it is an advance degree for PAs, consider doing a search on job boards to see if it shows up as a requirement or a desired qualification. Finally, it might help to talk with people in such positions and do web searches for people like that to see what their credentials are.

Generally speaking, the PhD will carry more weight in your academic circles, but since you're not trying to be a traditional academic, not so much. I don't know if a Liberty PhD has any stigma associated with it. My gut says, "no" because I don't know of any evidence to the contrary.

You're considering a scholarly degree (the PhD) and a professional doctorate (the DMS). These are typically quite distinct in their approach and degree requirements. Make sure you know of any particular distinctions with these two degrees and that you're fine with it. (Even though the PhD is scholarly, lots and lots of practitioners get a PhD to move along their career paths.)

Josh's advice about considering a master's should be considered as well, since you're interested in administration as opposed to furthering your practice. But a doctorate might be expected, even if it isn't stated explicitly.

As for the costs, unless one or the other is a barrier to you, I'd weigh it less. It will likely have less impact on your and your future prospects than will selecting and completing the right degree.

Good luck in your search!

 

If Levicoff and you are the source, I might be comfortable ignoring your advice. But thanks for it.

 

Thanks for the advice. I hold two masters degrees so its time to move on. Obviously, the public administration focus is on government management and policy but it still has a lot of cross over with management and leadership in general. Liberty also offers the DSL Doctor of Strategic Leadership with a capstone project....To be honest, I've never heard of this degree nor have my colleagues.

 

Don't get hung up on the units as the most important part of the doctoral journey is the research and dissertation (or capstone) process.

I've been dissed a bit for doing a doctorate at a For-Profit called Trident (AIU) but one of the things I got from them was some freedom for my doctoral study research and topic. I'm blessed to work for the largest health plans/HMO in the country and I'm planning on leveraging tha relationship to assist in my research. My focus is around the barriers with health IT adoption in the senior care space (home health and nursing homes). Given COVID-19 and the rise of tele-health I'm hoping to mine the organization along with a few local nursing homes (if possible) over the next year to study this issue. Also I have good relationship with a few faculty at the University of Minnesota (where I did my masters) so I may use them as sounding boards if needed. End of the day I think given my hectic work schedule I'm still hopefully that I'll be able to do contrbute something worthwhile to the organization and maybe at the sametime make a few new connections.

 

Will you guys ever quit? When y'all get tired of going after me, y'all go after each other. It's actually very touching.

Here is the difference between Chris and Rich: Chris acts like an ass half of the time. Rich acts like an ass all the time.

I like to think that Chris will grow out of it once he has his Ph.D. in hand. Rich, on the other hand, has two doctorates, and he will never grow out of it.

In the meantime, I'm happy being part of this gay little threesome. They're the assholes. I'm the prick.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

(Of course, I take none of this seriously.)

 

Keep your eyes on the prize.

 

As I've said for many years, Steve, this is your board. Enjoy!

 

Liberty University is making money, so Military Personnel and First Responders pay less.

https://www.wnd.com/2020/07/n-y-times-sued-10-million-making-covid-19-story/?fbclid=IwAR36YefvuNpWpe8dwuI8G0W8VEwS3Sj7IQcVq0TQUzWevHN1eMF_ynD5T9c

 

Apparently NY Times is not a fan of anything that is not left leaning.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bari-weisss-resignation-letter-showed-all-thats-wrong-with-modern-newsrooms/2020/07/14/66524a18-c60f-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html%3foutputType=amp

 

Agreed. Thanks for posting that.

 

Oh, there are other interpretations available about this situation and Weiss in general beyond that one.

 

Denial of Request for Change
Allen College, Waterloo, IA

• Denied the institution’s request to reduce the number of credits for the Doctor of Education in Health Profession Education program from 60 to 46 credits.

I wonder what was the HLC's rationale for taking this action.
https://www.hlcommission.org/Student-Resources/june-2020-actions.html

Not related to credit but interesting:

Tabor College, Hillsboro, KS

• Denied the institution’s request to offer the Doctorate in Missiological Preaching (D.Miss).

https://www.hlcommission.org/Student-Resources/june-2020-actions.html

The HLC must have realized that this is just another bulls#!t professional doctorate.

 

I started off my undergrad at Tabor College on a baseball scholarship. Loved the campus but the town had a population of about 3,000 people and the nearest town was about 20 miles each direction. Lol