Paris School of Business - DBA (AACSB)

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I did a search of Paris School of Business but didn't find any thread (maybe I missed it).

    Executive Doctorate of Business Administration (AACSB accredited since February 2020)
    • Mostly distance work, mixed with a few seminars and workshops in Paris & at our international partner institutions
    https://www.psbedu.paris/en/programs/executive-dba
     
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  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I have no doubt this is a fine school and a worthwhile program, to help an executive get to the top of his/her game. And once COVID-19 has been licked, some time in Paris would be a great attraction. But I wish they didn't cling to that hackneyed phrase - "think outside the box."

    There IS no box.
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    One caveat:

    What is the difference between a Doctorate (PhD) and a DBA?


    Some schools, in particular in management, award DBAs (Doctorate in Business Administration). These DBAs are outside the academic structure and are not certified by the French State.


    From here: https://www.campusfrance.org/en/FAQ-Doctorate-France-questions

    The site also points out that some French business schools falsely call their DBAs Ph.Ds and those over-inflated degrees aren't State-certified either. (We had a multi-page thread on just such a school a while back.) Looks like you could end up with a DBA that might not travel well. If it's not certified by France, perhaps you might have problems here with an evaluation, AACSB notwithstanding - because outside US, AACSB has nothing to do with institutional accreditation or equivalent. It demands RA in the US, but outside, "sufficient degree-granting authority" (in their view) in the school's own country suffices.

    If you want a DBA for American use, probably best to get one here - or maybe UK if you must. In some countries - e.g. Poland, you can earn a DBA degree even though such a degree does not officially exist in the country's education system. Some schools sell them -- to foreigners only.
     
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Looks like DBA status may be somewhat the same in France as Poland. Not State-certifiable.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Agreed; it's rather ironic that so many people use such a tiresome cliché to refer to innovative thinking.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Every time they SAY this - they think they're DOING it. :(
     
  7. Johann766

    Johann766 Member

    31650 Euros in Tuition Fee is killing my interest in this program..
     
  8. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Johann, do you have a twin on here?
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No, Chris. Johann766 is a different guy. As I've said a couple of times - He is a REAL German. Echt Deutsch. I'm just a fake.

    I'm more of a Johann 666 , if you get my meaning - but I don't use the numbers. (My real name is John. 60+ years ago, I was "Johann" in German class, at school.)
     
  10. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Okay, thanks for the clarification. Bad numbers lol... I don't think you can even get them on license plates in the U.S. :D
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  12. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  13. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Doh!

    I should have insisted that my name in French class be Maniaque.
     
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  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The phrase, while trite, is accurate. "The box" is any existing paradigm in use that tends to encourage conventional thinking and discourages innovative thought. "The box" tends to support seeing challenges and east-to-complicated, out "out of box" thinking allows one to recognize complexity--and the concurrent need for new solutions for new challenges.

    So, why the saying is trite, there is real truth underlying it.
     
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yeah....um, no.

    That stuff wears off rather quickly. I didn't do the license plate thing, and I don't really refer to it much. For example, a lot of people put "Dr....." or "...., Phd) in their LinkedIn handles, but when I tried it out ("Rich Douglas, PhD, SPHR) it seemed a bit self-centered. So I changed it to just "Rich Douglas." I prefer that.
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    IF one believes so. I refuse. We each have to do what works for us. A long-gone DI member used a "Which box will you stand in?" analogy to promote his right-wing beliefs. I said standing in boxes was definitely not my thing. Neither is acknowledging their existence. Useless, as I see it.
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It's a form of constructive denial that works for me. YMMV.
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Sometimes yes - sometimes no. I knew a qualified psychologist (and one of the best college instructors I ever had) who had "PSYCH" as a personal plate on his expensive new sports car. Twelve years later, I ran into him again - same plate, different expensive new sports car. Doing great, doing good, same nice guy.

    Enjoy your plate, Murray. You too, Chris! :)

    "If you got it - flaunt it!" (Clerow "Flip" Wilson, in his famous "Geraldine" persona.)
     
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  19. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Different strokes for different folks, Dr. Rich... or Rich.
     
  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Believe what you want, of course, but I develop leaders every day and that includes preparing them to do exactly what I described. I refer you to the work of Heifetz and Linsky (on adaptive leadership), Bob Kegan (adult ego development theory), and Dave Snowden (Cynefin framework).
     

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