Osama Bin Laden Dead

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It has been announced that US armed forces have finally caught up with the number one terrorist! Yippee!
     
  2. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    Wahoo! Good riddance.
     
  3. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator Staff Member

    I agree, I'm glad the man is dead. Unfortunately, it will change very little in the terrorist camp; another will only rise to take his place.
     
  4. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    And that next guy makes a good target in my book. Reload and shoot again.
     
  5. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    My opinion is that the ideal has happened here. That is, he was killed by USA armed forces and his body was taken into custody. If he had been captured alive then it would only encourage the terrorist to demand his release and give the terrorist more time to martyer the despicable murder. It would have been months before he could have been excuted. It is much better to just say that "Osama Bin Laden was killed in a military action that was ordered by the USA President!"
     
  7. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    I agree. This is the best way.
     
  8. OutsideTheBox

    OutsideTheBox New Member

    Now we can withdraw our forces from Afhganistan and Iraq, we took out the head of the snake as we wanted so why stay? Obama should under presidential order as commander-and-chief pull out all our forces save an embassy force perhaps enhanced in ,say, 6 months. Our brave men and women did it now lets get them out of harms way.
     
  9. dcan

    dcan New Member

    The real ideal would have been in the first few weeks in Afghanistan, or in Tora Bora. I believe the instructions for the CIA team lead at that time was to return with Bin Laden's head on a stick.

    As it is, the world sees the mighty US rendered impotent by a bunch of freaking goat herders. We had to invade a dirt-poor country and lose ten years, 5,000 troops, and trillions of dollars to do it, and they just had to sit back and periodically poke us with a stick to make us spend more and lose more lives. And the population we supported never really liked us anyway. That is the sad truth about counter-insurgency and nation building.
     
  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    So, what you mean to say is :raincloud:
     
  11. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Bravo - well done!!!!

    Killing Bin Laden and recovering his body was the best way to go.

    This was an extrememly risky operation, and my praise goes out to the President, Leon Panetta, and the intelligence/military community. If this had gone wrong, it would have been ALL the Presidents fault in the eyes of the public. So it took his authorization, and his only to order this operation. I have to say that takes courage.

    And to think Trump and the birthers were tying to tie up the Presidents time while he was in several meetings on how to capture/kill Bin Laden. Good job birthers.

    Boy am I going to sleep well tonight!!!!!!!

    Abner :)
     
  12. NorCal

    NorCal Active Member

    Osama Bin Laden's death marks a chapter in book which should have been closed long ago. Yes we killed Bin Laden, and I'm glad we did, but that does mean we are any closer to defeating terror; and Americans no longer have the stomach to continue combat operations, so I could see Bin Ladens death used as an excuse to withdraw troops which would allow the US to bow out gracefully and save face.

    Not how I would proceed, but I would understand those who feel differently; agree to disagree.
     
  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    John Kerry spoke about Tora Bora extensively, and you know what? He was right! But things didn't happen that way, so could have, should have doesn't do much good at this point.

    Abner
     
  14. james_lankford

    james_lankford New Member

  15. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Yeah, my wife posted that on her Facebook wall. The right wing extremists on her side of the family are all pissed. Oh well.

    Abner :)
     
  16. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

  17. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    Wow, really? I am glad golf and fundraising did not detract from the goal.
     
  18. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Probably very little if any at all; but it’s highly likely Obama WILL receive and accept the praise.

    The acclaim should rightly go to NATO International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and U.S. Forces Afghanistan (USFOR-A) commander Gen. David H. Petraeus and the DOD’s U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) combatant commander ADM Eric T. Olson (himself a Navy SEAL) and the USSOCOM dispatched “get-r-done” Navy SEAL Team.

    And most likely, neither should any real credit go to the ZERO prior intelligence community experience politician, Clinton administration retread, and career political appointee —CIA director Leon Panetta. Not a shocker, but the Obama team made the 2009 decision to play politics (e.g., ideological alliance rather than qualifications) with even the CIA appointment. Obama might just as well have nominated Leon Russell, Leon Redbone or Leon Spinks…

    The positive —Gen. Petraeus will be taking the helm at CIA shortly. Nonetheless, Panetta will move to yet another political appointment as Secretary of Defense with the upcoming retirement of Robert Gates. Panetta did spend two years in the U.S. Army but as a lawyer (JAG 1964-66). No offense to current or prior JAG officers; however, they’re not remotely experienced with military operational matters. I expect Panetta will need to rely heavily on the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff ADM Michael Mullen as his principal military adviser.
     
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  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I realize that indefinite detention at Guantanamo shows that the right to a fair trial is passé, but if a society is as committed to the rule of law as those in the U.S. claim to be, then that means that even the most loathsome defendants should get their day in court.

    That said, I'm not exactly in mourning over him, and besides, since Bin Ladin was killed while resisting capture, a trial clearly wouldn't have been a realistic option either way. I just thought even now that the principle was worth remembering.

    -=Steve=-
     
  20. Hadashi no Gen

    Hadashi no Gen New Member

    Fantastic. The last 10 years were totally worth it.

    :hypnotized:
     

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