Opinions: NCU vs Newcastle

Say WHAT?

Your company will reimburse NCU but not Newcastle.
Your company likes the NCU program and the degree title fits well.
"I showed them the DBA program and they were not quite so persuaded with it to provide the assistance."

Sound like an easy decision to me!

I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt a Newcastle DBA is going to have that much more acceptance to justify it. In fact it seems to have less acceptance than the US RA NCU degree!

At least if anyone asks you why you picked NCU you can truthfully tell them your employer liked the program and paid for it.

Just my opinion

 

Yes, that's true - NCU is also offering a DBA now as well. I looked at the prices of the two schools (Newcastle and NCU). The NCU seems considerably less expensive. Am I incorrect?

 

You are incorrect....

To get the DBA (with current MBA) at NCU it will cost approx. $26k. At Newcastle it is approximately $21k. If NCU requires you to purchase books (Newcastle is all enclusive) that will raise their costs considerably.

Newcastle also is Stafford eligible and NCU is not.

 

Bing, just curious...

Who do you work for that they would prefer a PhD over a DBA? Frankly, when a comparison is made I would guess that my employer would prefer the exact opposite as the DBA's more practical focus is more beneficial to my current career.

I am just now approaching my employer to pay for it. They refused to pay for Touro as it was out of state. However, that was simply a preference of the idiot that reviewed my paperwork. There is no policy saying the school must be in state and in fact I know many employees receiving reimbursement for out of state schools. Now, however, that idiot has retired so I am hoping I have a chance for approval. Of course, Newcastle isn't just out of state it is out of country.....

 

Plus they talk funny and drive on ....

I could never go to Newcastle. They talk funny, they drive on the wrong side of the street, the legislators wear wigs, and their cops don't carry guns. No wonder we kicked their A$$ in the Revolutionary war.

GO AMERICAN!!!

 

Other way around. The NCU program is 5 or 6 thousand more. I don't know if books and other materials are included in the Newcastle program, but they are not in the NCU program, which might even widen the gap.

 

Re: Bing, just curious...

DTechBA,

They don't care if the degree is DM, DBA, PhD, EdD, or what. They cared about five things...1) RA 2) coursework related to my department specialty 3) that the program culminates in a degree. 4) does it match up with what the company needs...the hot list. 5) they showed me that the company policy does not allow for foreign degrees. Policy states that, "No overseas classes are allowed for tuition reimbursement programs."

The DBA at Newcastle is more of a general management degree. NCU has various options that allow you to apply a specialization...such as computers. This was what the company was looking at(they did not care about the disseration). I'm personally fine with doing a general management degree and be able to do a dissertation in what I am interested in. Since Newcastle approved my proposal it then would lead me to the same goal.

 

Re: Plus they talk funny and drive on ....

Ummm....no. Unless the cry through Massachusetts was "The Aussies are coming!"

 

Re: Plus they talk funny and drive on ....

Last time I checked, we didn't fight Australia in the Revolutionary War. In fact, there wasn't even an Australia back in those days. They do drive on the wrong side of the road though.....

 

Aussies....

I knew a young Aussie sheila once. Oo la la, the blond hair, blue eyes and that accent......

 

Re: You are incorrect....

Look at it this way if anyone is considering the same question. If you need to take a loan out for the program then your payments, over 10 years might look something like this...

Newcastle: 240/month...21K borrowed
NCU: 323/month...26K borrowed *

*(taking into account the 10% tuition reduction for paying all at once...but including a good estimate on the books you have to buy)

 

Re: Re: Plus they talk funny and drive on ....

There is also a Newcastle University in England. Come to think of it, England probably sent over their criminals here to fight us Yanks, before shipping them off Down under.

At least the Aussies have good surf and big sharks.

 

Re: Re: Re: Plus they talk funny and drive on ....

Yep, Newcastle on the Tyne. A very good Brit university.

Personally, as someone who has checked his history extensively enough to know that there is a strong circumstantial case that his forebears were transported to the Carolinas (yes, Great Britain sent convicts our way too), I must a feel a close affinity with my Aussie partners in ancestral criminal history.....

 

I don't know. Maybe it's me, but I can't even imagine how someone can compare the University of Newcastle and NCU.

If you have a choice, and both have accepted you and cost about the same, I think enrolling in NCU would be shortchanging yourself.

Where did you get your master's from?

 

The results are interesting at this point in the vote.

 

Although the Newcastle is not AACSB accredited, it seems that the trend is to have more australian schools in accreditation track. Charles Sturt and USQ are members and seeking accreditation and I might think that Newcastle will seek the accreditation very soon.

In my opinion, it would be a lot more easier to sell a degree from a traditional school than one from a new virtual school. On the other hand, NCU specializations seem to be more appealing than the general DBA from Newcastle.

I would say that if you want to remain in industry, the NCU Phd would make more sense because of their specialization tracks that can give you the lead for industry jobs. If you want to teach, the Newcastle DBA would be easier to sell because of the school's name and because of their high chance of seeking AACSB accreditation.

 

Re: Re: Opinions: NCU vs Newcastle

Guess if they are considering AACSB they must not be an open enrollment school. What is the minimum GMAT and GPA to enter the Newcastle DBA program?

 

Re: Re: Opinions: NCU vs Newcastle

No plans in the near future for Newcastle to move to AACSB. Their goal right now is to get DETC accreditation.

Bing

 

Re: Re: Re: Opinions: NCU vs Newcastle

I always wondered why Australian schools would seek this accreditation. DETC accreditation might carry some value at the undergraduate level but almost none for a DBA. In Canada at least, this actually would work against you as DETC graduate degrees wouldn't be acceptable for teaching but I guess they might feel that attracting undergraduate students is better business for them.

 

Re: Re: Re: Opinions: NCU vs Newcastle

GMAT is not a requirement for AACSB accreditation. There are few international schools that have the accreditation but don't have GMAT requirements.