Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by Beagle412, Sep 8, 2010.
I would put Harvard Extension.
The way I'm understanding;
Harvard extension site = Harvard on resume
Harvard seperate campus = Harvard + specify the campus on resume
Djacks-If I saw a resume' with just Harvard, I would assume that person went to Harvard, not thinking about anything online.
Pats-If I see "Harvard Extension", this would make me ask additional questions about how you got your degree.
Look up resumes and curriculum vitae wherein Penn State is involved. You'll find a mix of people who list the campus and people who don't. Based on a few quick searches, the people who don't list the campus seem to be in the majority, particularly with curriculum vitae. It isn't unethical and it isn't lying. Listing the campus is completely optional.
If your diploma doesn't specify a campus (as in the case of Penn State), your resume shouldn't have to either. Now, telling an interviewer that you were in the Smeal program or attended a campus you didn't would be completely unethical.
The Harvard/Harvard Extension conversation has been discussed ad nauseum here and it doesn't really fall in line with this discussion. HES is a school inside Harvard University just as the Smeal College of Business is a school inside PSU-University Park.
To answer your question, personally, on my resume it states:
Harvard University, Harvard Extension School
Which keeps in line with how I present my other education:
Harvard University, Harvard Graduate School of Education
Vanderbilt University, Owen School of Management
Auburn University, College of Business
The extension website actually tells people how they should present their degree, so this really shouldn't be a debate. Just view the site for what the university deems acceptable. I know people who only list Harvard University BUT they do specify that the degree is an ALM, which is only granted through the extension school. The University gives a bit more slack to graduate students, but students in the undergraduate ALB program are required to list the extension school.
If we want to discuss this further, maybe we should begin a new thread as we have gotten completely off topic from what the OP was asking.
Really? Sorry, I did not know.
Yes, I think this would be a good thread starter.
This is one reason why HR should be well informed in the area.
I see your point and understand your argument, but I still find it a bit misleading. As I've stated, we just disagree. I feel it's disingenuous to graduate from say PSU-Altoona or PSU-World Campus and then only list PSU on your resume. Seems purposely vague to me.
I think one should list the entire school, including campus.
I guess we do have to agree to disagree then.
In some cases, it can be misleading and unethical to list only a university system on your resume, rather than a specific campus. For example, the value of a degree can be significantly affected by its professional accreditation (or lack thereof). Professional accreditors may or may not regard all parts of a university system as equivalent -- even if the university system itself makes no such distinction.
Suppose you have a PSU accounting degree. If it's from Smeal, it has AACSB accreditation in accounting specifically. If it's from PSU-Behrend, it has AACSB accreditation as a business degree, but it does not have AACSB accreditation for accounting specifically. If it's from PSU-Abington, then it has no AACSB accreditation in either business or accounting.
So AACSB does not perceive degrees from all "Pennsylvania State University" campuses as equivalent. And it isn't just AACSB -- depending on your state licensing regulations, the differences in accreditation could affect the degree's eligibility for professional CPA licensure. In this case, it could be perceived as misleading if you failed to specify the name of the campus that issued your degree. The generic "Pennsylvania State University" name could be regarded as meaning the University Park campus specifically -- which is in fact the way it is listed by AACSB.
I list APUS rather than AMU on my resume' for both the English and the Humanities degree. So should I change it?
Note the use of the phrase "in some cases". The APUS system technically consists of two different universities, but I suspect that there are no significant differences in accreditation, prestige, or utility between English/Humanities degrees obtained at AMU/APUS vs. those obtained at APU/APUS. So in this case, it probably doesn't matter.
If I am incorrect, and such differences do exist, then yes, you should specify that your degree is from AMU/APUS.
If you have a PSU accounting degree you're not misrepresenting anything by putting "Pennsylvania State University" alone. I see what you're trying to say, but I think the issues of accreditation do not necessarily belong on your resume or curriculum vitae. They certainly are not required.
Here's some suggested sample resumes from Pennsylvania State's own web page:
Penn State Fayette:Sample Resumes
Notice that the University Park resume lists the campus and all other resumes, including the accounting bachelors, do not.
It is common practice to list just "Pennsylvania State University" alone as your university. It is done everywhere, in the work world and academia. The exception is when you attended University Park and even then it isn't necessary, just a good idea.
It is incumbent up the grads of more distinguished programs/campuses at PSU to separate themselves on their resumes. An Abington grad doesn't need to list the campus they went to for the sake of all others. Sorry.
Best thing to do is to ask the university. The University of Pennsylvania once sued a former student for misrepresenting the program they were in.
In the case of Penn State it is perfectly allowable to omit the campus.
OK. Let's look at the first one, for "Lawrence M. Graduate" in Turtle Creek, PA. He has an accounting degree from the Pennsylvania State University. Can you tell, from his resume, which campus he attended? Does his degree have professional accreditation in accounting, or does it have business accreditation, or does it lack professional accreditation entirely?
These are not unreasonable questions. Just looking for the truth.
Believe it or not, employers like to have complete information on resumes. It's not necessary, but it's a good idea. Resumes that don't provide the whole truth tend to get trashed. Sorry.
I think this would make a great survey question for the board. I can't for the life of me figure out how to do a survey on here but would like to see what members of the forum think, If you attended a state university system should you designate which campus your degree was awarded from? I remember this being discussed in regard to UMUC and a forum member asking if he could just list the University of Maryland. As I call, most respondents answered with a resounding "no". I don't see how PSU is any different (regardless of how the PSU system is set up).
In an academic setting I felel like the campus is certainly going to factor into admission decisions into some graduate programs. The PSU-University Park campus obviously carries far more prestige than any of the other campuses. If you graduated from one of the campuses whose business or accounting programs don't carry AACSB accreditation that will eliminate you from consideration at a number of MBA and MAcc programs.
Thomas Jefferson, I'm curious if you graduated from one of PSU's campuses and if so, which one? I am assuming that if you did, you don't specify the campus on your resume/CV. If that is the case, has anyone ever questioned which campus you graduated from in your professional life?
I say you write PSU and tell them that Career Services is promoting misrepresentations with their sample resumes. It is an outrage!
Your survey is flawed, as we discussed earlier. Comparing say, PSU to the UC or CSU systems, is like comparing apples to oranges.
I'm in a Penn State program now and I work with Penn State grads. I will probably omit the campus on a future resume but I haven't burned too many calories thinking about it. I'll let you guys know if anyone ever questions it but I doubt they will unless there's a personal interest in the question: "Oh, I went there too!"
You really think that professional accreditation is an irrelevant issue to employers in professional fields?
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