Online DHA - 12 months - $15k

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I quoted your post because you said the school was not being deceptive, and that was obviously in response to what I said about the school. I responded that it is being deceptive or providing misinformation. I thought that was obvious. My post said nothing about you, and I have no idea why you would think it's about you. You were talking about the school, and I was talking about the school.

    I LITERALLY said that this does not excuse the SCHOOL from lying or giving inaccurate information. Are you the school? No!
     
  2. Alpine

    Alpine Member

    All I read from you is a person that had a bad experience with the admissions process over a year ago. Get over it!

    "Conflict is inevitable but contention is a choice" - Anonymous
     
  3. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I didn't say that someone had a bad experience with the admissions process over a year ago. What are you reading? Oh, my word! Not only do they accept anyone, but they give passing grades to students with poor writing and reading comprehension skills.
     
  4. Alpine

    Alpine Member

    Okay, all I read is blah, blah, blah, blah. Get over it!
     
  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    LOL. Is this student representative of who's at VUL? He/she/they is certainly getting upset over something that doesn't involve him/her/them.
     
  6. Alpine

    Alpine Member

    You've made it about me because you can't stand the idea that someone actually had a great experience attending VUL!

    You are now officially on my ignore list!
     
  7. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you think you're that important. My comments were about Ryan Le. LMAO!
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2021
  8. Alpine

    Alpine Member

    Then simply quote that person and not me!
     
  9. Alpine

    Alpine Member

    Good morning Sanantone,

    I apologize for the apparent confusion of facts surrounding your comments about "lies and deception" during the VUL admission process. Are you saying that you did not personally experience these events? As I read your posts, I get the impression that you had those experiences. For clarification, are you saying that you recommended hundreds of people to the DHA program at VUL and this is the feedback from those you recommended? I am not a spy nor do I work for the school. I'm just a graduate that enrolled in the first cohort with credit given to DI for bringing it to my attention. Like I said before, I appreciate reading about the pros and cons and I am saddened to hear about either your personal negative experience or that of your colleagues.

    Have a great day and once again, I apologize for the misunderstanding.

    Alpine:)
     
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  10. Alpine

    Alpine Member

    I'd like to leave with a few comments in parting. I recognize these past 20 months have been difficult for many. As a nurse, I have seen the death of colleagues, family members, patients, and friends due to complications of this damn pandemic. Healthcare providers are burnt out and administrators face huge challenges. When I entered the DHA program, I had a toolbox that was close to empty in the area of healthcare administration. Today I feel I have some useful tools that will prove helpful on my journey. You get those tools through effort and hard work! Don't expect to be spoonfed.

    One of my favorite topics focused on cultural competency. The DHA program has students from around the world. English is not the native language of many students which is not unusual for any online degree program these days. I would like to recommend a subscription to Grammarly for both native English and ESL students. This marvelous tool should help get your papers in the ballpark. Additionally, every paper submitted goes through a plagiarism tool that compares your written content to a global database of published documents. Bottom line, the written work needs to be yours and you need to cite references! The technology to detect plagiarism today is phenomenal and you will not get away with it!

    The first cohort certainly had some wrinkles that needed to be ironed out. This is expected in a new program. I am hopeful and remain optimistic improvements will be made with time and experience. I really don't have an interest in academia. For me personally, I am confident this degree will add some "icing on the cake" for a CNO position. Remain positive and provide the staff and faculty constructive feedback on making improvements to the program. They actually listen!

    All the best in your journey whichever path you choose and God Bless!

    Alpine
     
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  11. Ryan Le

    Ryan Le New Member

    What a petty and trashy person you are, Sanantone! You should know you're a liar during all arguments you have made with Alpine. I don't see anything in you for a Ph.D. degree. This is a free country, and people can say anything they want. This right should be taken away from you. Thank you for your nosy ass in this forum. This is my last post, and I enjoy all Alpine's defensive points.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Can confirm.
     
  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Bye, Ryan.
     
  14. Futuredegree

    Futuredegree Active Member

    Can I get some popcorn? This is turning into a drama scene here. It is not that big of a deal it's a degree at the end of the day it works for some does not work for others.
     
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  15. felderga

    felderga Active Member

    The vast majority of my classmates are using VUL for career advancement or check the box goal. Also most don't aspire to be full fledged academics after this program either. While it is important for many to be exposed to deep applied research unless you are moving into consulting or working in a research based organization its probably a bit overblown in its usefulness after graduation. Hence the popularity and prospects of more applied professional doctorate programs like VUL are sure to surface. Like it or not this trend will grow.

    Again as far as VUL I'm not going to sugarcoat and say the program isn't without flaws or issues. As I mentioned earlier I hope to address some of my concerns once I complete the program as I hope to be a supporter in some fashion of the school going forward.
     
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  16. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    You may have answered this elsewhere, but what was the structure of the 3 practicums. Since you have a year, you'd have to do one per each trimester right? The teaching and leadership practicums seem doable in that amount of time but 3 months to write a lit review, even in teams I'd be worried about running out of time.
     
  17. felderga

    felderga Active Member

    The capstone experience is during the third and final term of the program. The teaching and leadership practicums each are 8-week courses while the research practicum is 16-weeks. Additionally, for this fall the research experience is no longer group work but individual work that leads up to the cumulation of an IRB application (and proposal). Students are encouraged to continue research to build a publishable report after the completion of the practicum (we'll see how much support will be provided, but I'm guessing a few professors will want to see some positive outcomes. My guess is the research practicum is still an evolving course and will probably continue to look different in the upcoming terms as the programs seeks to balance the right about of exposure to the research process as well as hopefully being a gateway for allowing students to contribute meaningful articles for publication.
     
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  18. felderga

    felderga Active Member

    Just curious about your future study plans. I get the Project/Program Management certification as that is very useful. However, would like to know more about why a DHSc and MPH? Granted the DHA at VUL is lacking in policy so I kinda could see why to pursue another degree program. If you do indeed pursure a MPH and expect to make use of the degree you should look for a CEPH program.
     
  19. Futuredegree

    Futuredegree Active Member

    With no healthcare experience the more I can add the more I will learn. MPH in combination with DHSc will give me the missing pieces of foundation in the healthcare field. I’ll be quite frank I was looking at Liberty University MPH as they accept nationally accredited degree credits from TRACS but not sure which ones will be accepted. I found a few other options even some schools that are not CEPH which offer curriculums I like. The VUL DHA is not enough it lacks in some areas plus accreditation issues being that it’s NA I’m just going to go back to school personal choice. EVMS is regionally accredited doctorate and could help later if I so choose to teach as well.
     
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  20. felderga

    felderga Active Member

    That's a lot of schooling to do both an MPH along with the DHSc as you start to look more like a career student. Also, I'm guessing other than electives you won't be able to transfer units into Liberty. Instead, you might want to consider doing a top-rank MPH program if you are going to spend that money as that will give you clout and possibly more access to jobs if they have a strong alumni network. I only say this as I've been a student mentor for the University of Minnesota School of Public Health for the past few years and know how hard the university works to place their graduates. Similarly, my daughter completed her MPH at the University of Washington 2 years ago and that school also offers great networking. UNC, Berkeley, and Michigan also offer online experiences, and depending on where you reside you might want to choose a school close to your home. However, I'm a bit biased and think U of Minn has a fabulous program with lots of connections to especially with United Healthcare. Also if you are worried about taking the GRE you might be able to get a waiver (because of COVID many schools aren't still requiring it anymore). Also U of Minn has a graduate certificate in Public Health (which I hold) and upon completion, you will easily be accepted into the MPH if you so choose to continue.

    The thing about EVMS DHSc program is that it's geared to mid-career professionals and not so much someone looking to break into healthcare. So again if you are spending $45K+ I would rather just go for a top 15 MPH program as I think you'll get more bang for your buck provided you are looking for career in healthcare and not in academics.
     
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