North Carolina transgender ruling: Major companies in uproar over public toilet ban

I've lived in Virginia for 18 years. It is definitely two separate states. The rural parts (everything outside of the Washington DC and Hampton areas) is as country as you can get. And deep "red" in their politics, too. Because representation in the legislatures (typical) greatly favor the rural (and less populated), those people still hold great sway in state government, despite being the minority. But the state is slowly turning "blue" because of the rapid growth in those parts.

 

Here's what I mean: The state went for Obama in 2008 and 2012. The governor is a Democrat. So is the Lt Gov. Both Senators are Democrats, too. This would indicate the majority I'm suggesting--Democrats are now consistently winning statewide races. Yet the Virginia Senate is 21-19 in favor of the GOP, and the House of Delegates is 66-33 in favor of the GOP! The GOP also holds 8 of the 11 U.S. House of Representative seats from Virginia. If this doesn't indicate a clear majority, it certainly makes my point that (a) there are two different states here and (b) the rural districts cause the GOP to be over-represented. This same phenomenon exists across the country, where the most populous states are almost all blue, but there are a lot of sparsely populated states that mainly go red. And because the red districts at the local level are so numerous, they help the GOP control state legislatures despite being in the minority in a lot of them (like Virginia). This allows them to gerrymander the Congressional districts to help keep things that way, despite millions more votes for Democrats cumulatively across the country.

 

It's not discrimination. Your "son" is a boy/man. Unless he has surgery that's what he is. Treating him as he was born is not bigotry.

 

It most certainly is... And it's especially foul because it's state sponsored. The end result of your attitude for my family would possibly be a kid dead by suicide. I will struggle against your brand of intolerance with every fiber of my being.

 

Davewill, I mean no disrespect to your son or your situation. But if my son, who is a white biological male human being, thinks he is, or identifies as:

A Black female
An Asian male
An African Giraffe
An alien from Saturn

Does his belief that he is any of these things make it true?

I know he is not an alien from Saturn or an Asian male. How am I discriminating against him for knowing he isn't what he may think he is?

There are people in mental institutions who think they are Napoleon, Hitler or Jesus Christ. I know they are none of the three. How is this discrimination?

 

Then why is practically every word of your post disrespectful of my son and our situation? He is my son in every sense of the word. He does not "believe" he is a boy. He is not mentally ill or deluded. The fact that you feel entitled to both expound these opinions and furthermore have the state act on them without knowing that is offensive.

 

Things change as society progresses. There was a time when many believed blacks were apes. Homosexuality was incorrectly thought to be a mental health illness. I can go and on, but you get my point. Luckily, as these things were questioned, they became non truths.

 

No matter what he or you say, he is still a man. There is zero disrespect in that. People are free to be who they want to and I wish him all the happiness in the world. It's not bigotry to say someone born a man is a man. I'm sorry if that offends you, I have an opinion as well and it's not the same as yours but that does not make me invaild.

 

Abner do mean as time marches on, a man will no longer be a man? I still belive homosexuality is not right as its goes against our biological design, I just don't force others to agree with me nor do I wish to see guys discriminated against.

 

Except that Democrats have shown lately a distaste for voting in off-year elections. I have to think they would come out in greater numbers towards Democrats if that was not the case. And yes, I agree that the situation is definitely trending "blue." Even still, the rural districts will preponderate for quite some time because of the mechanics involved.

 

As long as you can regularly and publicly humiliate him by making him use the ladies room.

 

My comments had/have nothing to do with the state, and not one single word was intended to be, nor was it, disrespectful to you or your son. From your comments above you give the implication that your opinion/position is the only one that warrants being heard, that anyone who would question the validity of your opinion/position is somehow expressing bigotry/hatred/vitriol toward you or your situation. This is not true. You appear to want tolerance as long as it doesn't violate those things of which you are tolerant.

 

Perhaps I've misunderstood. Was your child born male or female (biologically)?

 

Why would it matter to the discussion? I assume that your opinion wouldn't change. Anyway he is my son, but was born looking female.

 

The whole thread is about a law requiring transgender people to use the bathroom that does not match their current gender. I assumed your remarks were intended to support that. I consider it a very, very bigoted law. Besides your post essentially said my son was mentally ill or deluded, which is not true and is quite disrespectful.

 

How does it humiliate him? I actually would like to know so that I might understand this from his perspective. I don't understand how a guy being forced to use the men's restroom is humiliation. Stop with the word games by the way. I've read the tactics for LGBT rights so no matter how many times you use the word bigotry on me it won't work.

 

"Looking female" is a bit vague, Dave. Was your child's birth gender female, but she now identifies herself as a male?