Newlane University

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Mac Juli, Sep 4, 2020.

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    We are now a long way from Newlane University - and more and more, concerning ourselves with other schools accredited by ASIC. I think we've wandered far enough. Our member, Josh can make up his own mind what all this means to him, I'm sure. Yes - after several tries, I think we're done. Thanks to our own sleuthing and the knowledge of well-informed people, we've had access to a lot of relevant info here. Let's leave it at this point. See what develops. If the situation changes - we'll re-examine it. OK? :)
     
  2. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    Don't know about global, but in Europe, an accrediting body that is a member of ENQA (see https://enqa.eu/index.php/about-enqa/enqa-in-a-nutshell/) and listed in EQAR (https://www.eqar.eu) is generally considered an agency that complies with the European Standards and Guidelines (https://enqa.eu/index.php/home/esg/). As far as I know, ASIC was never a full member of ENQA and is not in the EQAR list of registered agencies.
     
  3. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    Yeah, but at least one of those blokes was already involved with the American Learning Center, which was also ASIC accredited for a while.

    These things happen, I guess. ASIC even saw some value in Dr Sir Syed Shamsul Hassan Azeemi's National University of Penal, Administrative and Security Sciences. But then again, so did an individual who was...well, let's say interested in international travel. The Dr Sir etc is a St Regis University graduate, if memory serves me right.
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. Dang these ad-related links here at DI. St. R-e-g-i-s U. was a notorious mill, flying the flag of Liberian accreditation. IIRC it got its American operators some jail time back, after being shut down years ago. Regis University, which is meant to result in a link - is a quality, RA school with no ties whatsoever to its almost-namesake - or ANY shady institutions whatsoever.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I get your meaning. Needs someone to keep an eye on him. :)
     
  6. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    Interestingly, American University of Athens somehow received a .edu web domain. They must have been grandfathered in. I didnt realize their presence until recently.
     
  7. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I don't know, https://net.educause.edu/whois.htm?rca=1

    "Domain record activated: 06-May-2004"
    Edit: I should mention the domain I used for the WHOIS is https://www.aua.edu in case I used the wrong one mistakenly.

    But on this site, https://www.farsightsecurity.com/blog/txt-record/edu-investigation-20160825/

    "The Cooperative Agreement between EDUCAUSE and the U.S. Department of Commerce specifies that all .edu names in existence as of October 29, 2001 are "grandfathered," regardless of current or past eligibility requirements."

    I'm not sure if this is a failing in the Educause WHOIS recordkeeping or something else.
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Bad things happen from time to time. Domains get passed along to other schools (or assumed when they shouldn't be). I remember a .edu domain that got passed along to a succession of unaccredited schools. pcu.edu once belonged to an unaccredited school - Plantation Christian University. That school became accredited, changed its name and the domain stayed behind. Somehow, it changed hands - to unaccredited Pass Christian University (never located in Pass Christian MS, btw.) It changed hands again - to Paramount California University, another unrelated, unaccredited school, that had ASIC accreditation for less than a month before it was rescinded. I'm not sure if it passed along again - to Pacific Coronado University, which did not last long, before being sold to Axact, the friendly fraudulent firm in Karachi.

    I think it's fair to say that, over the years, Educause has failed to react to a fair number of slippery .edu domain situations.
     
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Correction: I meant to say "I'm not sure whether or not it passed along again - to Pacific Coronado." Timer got me. Apologies. -J.
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Bumpity.

    Newlane U. is still with us, still ASIC-accredited - and has been on the DEAC "to be Considered" list for quite a while. I'd like to see them make it. They still offer one Associate's (General Studies) for $1,500 and one B.A (Philosophy) - which requires the Associate's or equivalent for entry. So - with NO prior credits, you can complete two degrees for $3,000. Granted, they're without recognized US accreditation -- so far.

    I looked at the website today. They published their 2021 report. 24 active students, 2 graduates. The 2 graduates have done OK. One has enrolled in a Master's program at a UK University.

    My take: I like their offering. I don't like ASIC involvement, but:
    A

    (1) that's admitted personal bias by yours truly
    (2) One of the partners told us in this thread that someone at DEAC told them it was a good idea to get ASIC while awaiting DEAC decision.
    B

    The degree in Philosophy might be fine as a box-ticker - where any degree will do fine. Some prospects will turn away as philosophy degrees are regarded by some as a death-knell on a job application. I disagree with that, but... nobody's gonna listen.

    C

    The school accepts tuition on terms of $39 a month. If all students elect this, that makes the total monthly take around $920. Not only is that unsustainable, to run a school - it can hardly facilitate the financial condition and and continued viability required by an accreditor.

    I'd like to see this school succeed. But the figures I have to work with don't add up to success. I'm worried for Newlane. I sincerely hope they make it.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2022
  11. GregWatts

    GregWatts Active Member

    I remember a person asking what the best University there was to get an engineering degree in road construction. I recommended Tulane.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    (Yawn.) This is where I came in, Greg. From you, on page 3 of this thread:
    If milked too often, a cow can get mastitis. We don't want an-udder-sick cow... :rolleyes:

    Done in this thread. Said what I came to say. All yours. Good luck.
     
  13. Joshs

    Joshs New Member


    Don't know if anyone is still watching this thread but since it comes up on our search results I'd like to let everyone know that Newlane university IS accredited now through DEAC. https://directorysearch.deac.org/school/list.aspx

    As one of the co-founders, Im happy to answer any questions.
     
  14. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Well, congratulations!!
     
  15. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    One important question: I see that there's a monthly payment structure. If someone signs up for a degree and studies (for instance) for 6 months but ultimately decides that the program isn't right for them, are they still on the hook for the whole uncompleted degree? Or is the ~$500 they've already paid enough?
     
  16. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    And relatedly, if a student leaves before completing a degree and before paying full price for the degree, yet having completed the requirements of one or more courses, can they receive nationally accredited course credit on a Newlane transcript?
     
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  17. Joshs

    Joshs New Member

    Thanks Mac Juli
     
  18. Joshs

    Joshs New Member

    Great question. There is no commitment. It is not a financed loan, just a way to make payment more accessible to more people, free to cancel at any time.
     
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  19. Joshs

    Joshs New Member

    When a student earns credits from our program, they are theirs no matter what happens. We have had students who have left our program and moved to a traditional program with their credits accepted by the new program.

    From the Newlane Manifesto:

    Educational records, including learning achievements, grades, transcripts, credentials, and degrees should be owned and managed by the student rather than an institution. Students should be able to move freely among any learning institution or organization at anytime or for any reason.
     
  20. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    That's great, pretty much what I thought would happen... Are you planning to expand beyond the current Associates/Bachelors offerings soon?
     

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