New U.S. AACSB-accredited Distance PhD in Accounting, IS, Management or Marketing

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by FTFaculty, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    The Kennesaw State DBA is now a PhD. Once a month residencies required for the first two years, then onto the dissertation phase. So this may not be feasible for many (though Spirit Air has some megacheap flights into Atlanta). Can be completed in three years. I teach not too far from KSU, and while it's not some major university with a national reputation, it is a very legitimate university, the next tier down from places in Georgia like University of Georgia and Georgia Tech. They have a large business school and overall about 35,000 students.
  2. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I've been there for a conference. If "brick and mortar" presence is any kind of criteria, Kennesaw definitely has it; major regional campus. My understanding is that they are no slouches in academics, either. It's a public AACSB-accredited school in US; someone looking for best hybrid degree to transition to teaching should seriously consider their program. If one can affort to spend $96,500 getting a doctorate, that is.
  3. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    Yep, that's the rub. Thing is, though, someone with some accounting skills ought to be able to run some PV or ROI calculations and come up with a pretty good idea of whether it's a good deal or not. I have to think that if someone could finance it and get through in three years while working, it might lead to a $150K+ a year job that could make it a legit investment. Of course, someone strong enough to get into the program in the first place is probably the sort who would be able to make more in the private sector than academia anyway. But there is something nice about the academic life.
  4. murumanie

    murumanie New Member

    These type of doctorates are expensive but they allow you to still earn a decent living while you complete the doctorate. Its more about a change in career into academia than getting the doctorate degree to get a higher paying better job. The alternative is to go back full-time and live on the grad student stipend. If you are already in senior management and earning well over $100k this is still a better option than going back full time.
    I am a CFO at a small company and looking into these programs more because I am considering changing careers. I I have always thought about getting a PhD but went to public accounting then industry and the opportunity costs to go back full time are just too high. I think these programs are more about a pathway for people like myself who contemplate a move to academia without the huge sacrifices of becoming a full time student for 4-5 years again when you are already well established in your career.

    Kennesaw looks like a good programme but I live too far away from there for it to a suitable choice for me. Its expensive but there are more expensive programs such as Case Western Reserve - $150,000
  5. Stephen Michael

    Stephen Michael New Member

    And there are also less expensive programs too, that are AACSB accredited, and overseas.
  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    A lot of Americans don't want a degree that they'll have to explain, which can be the case with a foreign doctorate.
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    True - but shouldn't being AACSB take at least some of the sting out of that? From their web-page:
    The Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business, also known as AACSB International, is an American professional organization... (emphasis mine - J.)

    My take: If the applicant is smart enough to save him/herself $50K+ on a degree that has US equivalency and is US approved (by AACSB) then that person is probably smart enough to work wherever they want to. But then again, I'm not a hiring manager - nor did I ever want to be.
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  8. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I don't dispute that this is a smart way to save money. I haven't had anyone question why I pursued my MBA with an Indian university. I currently teach three business courses (college preparatory). However, when I was applying for college instructor positions, I never received any interviews. After earning my MS in CJ, I received quite a lot of interviews for instructor and Asst. Prof positions. If I was on a search committee for a business TT position at an AACSB accredited school, I would not hire someone who pursued their doctorate in a foreign country while living in the U.S. If they are a native of that country and pursued the degree while living there, I think that's a different story. That's just me being biased.
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Learned bias, from your negative experience applying for college positions, teaching business with a foreign MBA. Why would you feel compelled to perpetuate this acquired bias - and possibly pass it on, or reinforce it in others? Surely not "to get even?" I don't believe you're that guy. Not for one second.
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  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Depends on the school and/or national system.
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    There was a time when being able to complete a short-residency PhD (in any field) while remaining employed was an incredibly rare thing. Now we read people talking about the unfortunate presence of those residencies. Oh, my.
  12. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    No, not because of my experience. I am not a vindictive person - I believe in karma. So, I always try not to intentionally hurt people or get back at anyone.

    So, while I started a thread and enjoy showcasing people who have DL doctorates and work fulltime at HEIs, I favor the traditional preparation route to academia. It has less to do with being foreign and more to do with being online/DL. They would have to convince me otherwise by having a few publications in respected peer-reviewed journals. As Rich said about school/system, I am pretty sure I'd view some DL doctorates favorably (i.e., those offered at prestigious universities around the world).

    That's true.
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Excellent answer - I don't think there could possibly be a better one. :) Thanks!
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