NCU Mentor with NA doctorate

In American law schools it is very common to have faculty with no more than the J.D. teach and supervise LL.M. (and I would guess probably) J.S.D. students. (There are so few of the latter that I cannot form an impression from the usual catalogs and statistics.)

It seems to me that by the time one is supervising doctoral students one likely has a track record of scholarly research and appropriate publication. That being so, does holding a legitimate doctorate really matter?

Anecdotally, there is a very common requirement in J.S.D. application processes; the applicant is supposed to identify a faculty member with similar reseach interests who is willing and able to supervise the J.S.D. candidate. I have NEVER seen any requirement that the faculty member thus identified hold any particular degree or even academic rank.

 

Your twist on the nurse scenario would be great if the doctoral supervisors did in fact have such a record of publication and scholarly research. For the person above, I did not find evidence of such.

 

No matter how anyone might try to twirl this issue, the fact is that it doesn’t look good and I share your concerns. The guy in question has unaccredited doctorate and he does not seem to be an expert in his field. I don’t think that he is qualified to supervise doctoral dissertations. Currently, it’s rare for university teachers without doctorates to supervise dissertations. However, they might be allowed to do so occasionally. Professors without doctorates that are allowed to supervise doctoral dissertations are usually celebrated experts in their fields. There is no evidence that this guy is an expert in any field.

 

- Is regional accreditation a recent phenomenon? Many public universities were just state approved at one point in time. Regional accreditation is voluntary and I assume all publically funded universities are currenctly state approved.

Is it true that regionally accredited doctorate degree holders originally held state approved degrees ( before the 1960's ) and were then grandfathered to hold RA accredited degrees?

Here is a website with a list of Ph.Ds who were faculty
members at state approved or recognized schools ( now RA ):

http://www.pragmatism.org/genealogy/chicago.htm[/url]

 

At least several of the regional accreditors have been around since the turn of the century.

 

...and by "turn of the century", I mean the previous turn of the century. Wow, now that we have a more recent turn of the century, I can't use that phrase to represent the period around 1900 anymore.

Bottom line is that the regionals have been around for over 100 years.

 

Fin de siecle.

 

When did the practice of regional accreditation begin?

 

More importantly, how did anyone know what was a good school before they invented accrediting agencies?

 

Regional Accreditors:

Middle States Association1919
New England Association 1885
North Central Association 1895
Northwest Association 1917
Southern Association 1895
Western Association 1962

National Accreditors:

Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools 1912
Distance Education and Training Council 1926

Professional Accreditors - Business:

Association of Collegiate Business Schools and Programs 1988
Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business 1916

Professional Accreditors - Theology:

Association for Biblical Higher Education 1947
Association of Theological Schools 1918
Transnational Association of Christian Schools 1979

 

I would say that this thread has strayed from the original topic.

 

"Excuse me Ted!

It is obvious that Dr. Freud can be of assistance to you
specifically for misperceiving and distorting facts and not being
able to distinguish an attack from a disagreement!"

Just kidding . I hope I did not bring back a monster.
. Thanks for the info. I was not aware that RA accreditation spanned that far.

 

And the national accreditation as been around for 79 years. By the way, the DETC is progressing forward to accredit Ph.D's within 3 years.

 

Gosh! I thought I was having a really bad flashback to a really old NCU thread!

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: NCU Mentor with NA doctorate

This thread http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19777 has a post about ACICS having a doctoral pilot project. Northwest Polytechnic University of Fremont, California, which offers the Doctor of Business Administration (DBA) and the Doctor of Computer Engineering (DCE) is their doctoral pilot project's first school.

 

Jamie:

I've read this twice now. Is there a source for this?

 

Rich,

I spoke with the DETC who advised after they start accrediting the DBA and get the program running, they will start to venture into accrediting Ph.D's. You won't see DETC Ph.D's for at least three years or more.

As for a "source", there is none. I got it directly from the executive director of the DETC.

 

I disagree, Jamie. I think it's (he's) an excellent source!

Thanks!

 

From DETC's website:

It doesn't quite explain what exactly they were doing in 1926, nor is it clear why they included the 1890 date.