My Ph.D. took a long time—and there’s no shame in that

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by SteveFoerster, Jul 18, 2023.

  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    A lot of people in my cohort and the one behind mine took the full 10 years to finish their PhD. Several on this forum have used time to complete a PhD as an insult. It shows ignorance and a detachment from reality. Not everyone is in a 3-year, online, non-competitive program with no research requirements beyond the capstone or dissertation. When the median time to complete a PhD in various humanities or social science fields is 6, 7, or 8 years, that means that half the students take longer than 6, 7, or 8 years.
  2. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    My dad completed his PhD in two years at age 25 from LSE. Then he lost one tenure determination then another then took a modest position in policy. The two-year wonder PhD ultimately constituted peaking too soon.
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  3. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    One person ended up being a truck driver. Individuals have different goals and take pride in different things, which is perfectly fine. For some, a degree at any level is just for self-edification; they have no intention of using the degree for employment purposes. Some might have had a goal of becoming a professor or full-time researcher, but they changed their mind at some point. Some only want a graduate degree so they can earn extra money adjuncting, so finishing quickly is not a priority.

    In my program, most of the early cohorts had full-time jobs while attending classes on campus. This led to a higher dropout rate. I'm sure if they had decent online options back then, they would have applied to those instead. My program has since changed their focus to full-time students who will work part-time in an assistantship throughout the entirety of the program.
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  4. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    :D humor!

    Excuses are monuments of nothingness. They build bridges to nowhere. Those who use these tools of incompetence are masters of nothing themselves!

    :D As Steve L would say, "bahahaha"
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  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    And, Steve had many excuses for being a truck driver, which is a job that doesn't even require a high school diploma.
  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Excuses or justifications, personally, I don't care. As long as people are happy, I am happy for them. So, no shade to anyone who hasn't PhinisheD in the expected timeframe, who chose to do a job they are overqualified for, who chose a non-competitive online program, or any other decisions you have made that others don't understand. You owe no one an explanation (excuse, justification, or otherwise).
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