Master's in Philosophy

Hi Ted - I'd also like to suggest that you include subject areas like, English Lit in your analysis. Still, people will do what they will do and frankly, despite all the "...fries with that..." comments, we know that these people are not working at the drive up window at BK. Maybe they're the Managers. A lot of people work in reatail and then get their MBA degrees online at which time they move up the corporate food chain a notch or two. I think that generally people who earn their college degrees do better in life than those who do not and so I usually don't like to discourage people from doing what they find interesting.

One of the things that interests me is the group of people who earn Bachelors degrees in some non-US language. Earn an MBA on top of a degree in German or Italian or, better yet, Chinese, and you've got the makings of a huge career.

 

...and some of us already had significant experience in employable areas, before beginning university studies, to fall back on. My degrees compliment rather than prop up my experience so when I decided I didn't like teaching high school kids I moved back into my previous profession. But I'm not above being the guy at the drive up window if that's all that's available to make a living. I think you even get free lunches. What a deal....

 

This board is home to countless threads about every aspect of business degrees. I don't recall MBA students being challenged to justify their choice of subjects or being made the butt of gratuitous jokes and insults.

I really wish that philosophy would be given the same courtesy, but that's probably too much to ask.

This makes participating on Degreeinfo less friendly and fun for people like me.

 

Sorry if I sounded a bit cynical, but ...
My first job after my bachelor's in history was working as a carnie ... a wholw whopping two days taking tickets for children's rides and then taking down rides. After that, I held a summer job as an exterior painter. Then, I worked three years as a drill press operator in a steel fabrication shop. I worked my way through MBA school, first by passing out literature for a private vocational school and later by asking people if they would like fries with that.

 

Sorry about that, Bill. I tend to self-identify far more as a history major (i.e., one who majored in unemployability) rather than as an MBA (YUCK!). Either way, people can say about me as they like.

 

It happens to English majors, or History majors or other majors with less linear direct marketability to Business. I know what you're talking about, but I get it too about English and English Lit. I just deal with it because, well, I liked my undergrad degree subject and it doesn't really matter if someone ELSE does. It had great utility to ME, which is what I cared about.

I know it can seem like it's a "business board" sometimes, but just let it roll off your back the best you can. If it really bothers you, put the "repeat offender" who does it the most (whomever you think that is) on ignore. Then it'll be a lot more fun

Or we can start a "recipient of a useless major" thread and post in it ourselves and have fun. Sowak'll come, too.

FWIW I have a TON of respect for Philosophy majors. I took one class in it and it made my head spin and my eyes cross. I remember thinking it was way more difficult than Math (my own personal scholastic cross to bear).

 

Bill,

I hope that I wasn't the cause of your post. I have a high regard for liberal arts degrees, especially philosophy and classical studies. I think critical thinking is important. If so, please accept my apologies.

As for MBAs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcoDV0dhWPA

 

Thanks to all who have contributed here. I have gotten some good information.

 

The University of Sofia www.uni-sofia.bg offers a PhD in Philosophy in English via DL.

 

They also offer a Masters in Philosophy in English via DL.

 

Darn. I ran over the 10 minute time limit on edits..... Let me try this again..

They also offer a Masters in Philosophy in English and a Masters in Philosophy of Language and Mind via DL (not sure if this one is taught in English).

The University of Sofia Faculty of Philosophy site also mentioned a number of Masters programs that are offered in cooperation with Ignatius University, an unaccredited school located in the U.S.

According to the Sofia website, one may complete the following degree programs through this joint effort with Ignatius University:

• CLINICAL AND COUNSELING PSYCHOLOGY
• INUSTRIAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL PSYCHOLOGY
• SOCIAL PSYCHOLOGY
• POLITICAL PSYCHOLOGY
• CONFLICT MANAGEMENT AND MEDIATION PSYCHOLOGY
• MENTAL HEALTH STUDIES AND COUNSELING
• PEACE STUDIES AND DISPUTE RESOLUTION
• INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS AND INTERNATIONAL LAW
• PHILOSOPHY

I found the following information on the Ignatius accreditation (of lack thereof!) page:

GRADUATE

Both the School of Psychology and the School of Philosophy have an articulated agreement with the corresponding departments at Sofia University for both master and doctoral studies. Sofia University, Sofia, Bulgaria, is fully accredited, is the elite national educational and research center of the country and listed in the World of Learning (Europa Publications, Barnes & Noble), a text of accredited international universities; the Educational Testing Service, Princeton, New Jersey, U.S.A., lists Sofia University as an approved university to receive GRE scores (# 7034) which is only given to accredited colleges and universities.

The programs available in Psychology are: Clinical/Counseling Psychology (pastoral counseling / psychology option), Industrial/Organizational Psychology, Social/Personality Psychology, Political Psychology, and Conflict Resolution/Mediation Psychology. At this stage, these aforementioned, identical psychology programs are independently regulated by Sofia University and Ignatius University. However students must simultaneously enroll in both institutions and may receive both the Ph.D. and Psy.D. at graduation.

The programs in Mental Health/Counseling Studies(pastoral, spiritual counseling option); Peace Studies / Conflict Management and Organizational Management / Diplomacy (at United Nations); and all studies in Philosophy are jointly regulated by Sofia and Ignatius Universities. Two doctorates may be received at graduation.

Those students in the Mental Health Disciplines or the like seeking licensure are advised to confer with their respective licensing boards in advance of graduate studies. ( See School of Psychology, "Licensure/Certification and the like," and Academic Regulations, "Disclaimer."

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They also mention the possibility of obtaining an accredited degree through Excelsior College! Not sure what this school it up to, but it sounds like an odd fit to me. Why would Sofia (and possibly Excelsior) associate with an unaccredited school? My guess is that there is no association with Excelsior. The implication is that one could ocmplete an undergrad through Ignatius and then complete a degree with Excelsior using PLA.

 

Ah! I wasn't entirely sure if that was the case or not, but I had remembered an old thread ocer at degreediscussion about their English language PhD in Philosophy via DL and wondered whether their master's in philosophy might also be offered in English via distance learning, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't sure, and so I posted the link and hoped someone would find out. Thanks, japhy (Tom)!