Making use of the NCU Ph.D. degree

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  1. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    And they also never have to hear, "So your cute little start-up just bought a doing business as?"
     
  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Theoretically speaking. However, as Andy Borchers will tell you, there are many schools offering the DBA, like Nova, in which the research requirements are more akin to the PhD.
     
  3. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    I've also been led to understand that Brit DL DBAs, such as Aston, Manchester, Henley MC, are very similar to U.S. PhDs are are generally considered equivalent; same goes, so I've been told, for the shockingly-affordable UNISA DBL (Doctor of Business Leadership) via DL.
     
  4. jagmct1

    jagmct1 New Member

    Good point, although I'm not terribly concerned with some individuals getting the DBA acronym confused. I'd use it strictly for part-time teaching opportunities and/or advancement in the private/governmental sector. Your resume, CV and cover letter would identify the DBA as Doctorate of Business Administration or in the teaching compacity refer yourself as "Dr. John Doe."

    I view the DBA as the theoritical working man's doctorate who may not be interested in a full-time tenured teaching position. That's exactly my situation and it seems to work pretty well.

    Most people that know me would quickly realize being a "Database Administrator" does not fit my profile, although I have training in high tech crime investigations, but I'm not very interested in being a database expert (how boring!) :)

    If it's all about perception, what's more recognizable is definitely the Ph.D, but simple communication with anyone interested in your credentials would quickly realize what the DBA stands for.
     
  5. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Not sure whether UK DBA theses are more theoretical or more practical. What the Brits mean when they say that their DBA is like a US PhD in Business is that the British distinction between the two degrees is that their PhD is dissertation only (unlike the US PhD), while their DBA is coursework plus dissertation (like the US PhD).
     
  6. gwindel

    gwindel New Member

    I am researching Manchester DL DBA program and I an not seem to find anywhere if there is any residency requirments or not. Can someone clarify this for me please?

    Also, about how much for the total program will it cost in US$ and take to complete the full DBA?

    And if Manchester does require some residency does any of the other schools listed above require no residency options?

    Thanks Again,

    Joe
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Try www.man.ac.uk .
     
  8. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    http://www.mbs-worldwide.ac.uk/programmes/dba/default.asp

    http://www.mbs-worldwide.ac.uk/download/DBA%20Fees.pdf

    Fees: 25,000.00 GBP United Kingdom Pounds = 45,867.36 USD
    United States Dollars


     
  9. gwindel

    gwindel New Member

    Thank You I will take a look at these. Man that is a lot of money. Off hand anyone know how much NCU's full Ph.D or DBA program is?
     
  10. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    If you transfer in the max of 30 grad credits it is $24,225 ($475 per credit X 51 credits) plus books.
    http://www.ncu.edu/tuition_and_fees.asp
     
  11. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Forgot to add -
    Doctoral Dissertation Fee — $1,600 is due in 4 equal payments of $400 before enrolling in RSH courses.
     
  12. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

    $26,00 for a PhD is a bargain - depending on your needs. The "bump" on my salay scale will have payback in three years.
     
  13. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    I think Manchester DBA will open more doors than NCU's PhD/DBA.
     
  14. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    For people in the know, that's absolutely correct, because the former is a top 50 worldwide research university, while the latter is an unheralded for-profit. But you'd be surprised how little people in academia know ; I'm not certain that the majority of U.S. educators would know the difference between "North Central", which is neither north nor central, and "Manchester".

    I'll bet the average poster on DI knows more about accreditation and foreign degrees than the average tenured prof in the U.S. Just an educated hunch.
     
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  15. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Can one argue that Prescott is in northcentral AZ?
     
  16. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    If you are in the military or a military retiree, you can knock 10K of that price. http://www.ncu.edu/info.asp?i=107
     
  17. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

    That's true - if only because of the "distance lends enchantment" rule of people's perception. Which is why Oxford University's undergraduate diploma in Computing is a great investment. People hear "Oxford University" and they are sold.

    Fewer people will know that Manchester is a highly regarded research university.
     
  18. PhD2B

    PhD2B Dazed and Confused

    Choose a university that will fulfill your needs and be realistic about what a degree from a particular university will and will not do for you.

    If a doctorate is required to bump your salary up, NCU is a good choice.

    If your need is to get a promotion or stand out from your peers at work, NCU is a good choice.

    If your need is to land a part-time job as an adjunct professor, NCU is a good choice.

    If you just have an innate desire to torture yourself by earning a doctorate, NCU is a good choice. :D

    If your need is to land a FT faculty job at a B&M university, then you had better start looking at "top" tier universities and put the notion of a DL doctorate behind you. I’m not saying you can’t land a FT faculty position with a DL degree, but the probability of doing so will not be in your favor.
     
  19. jagmct1

    jagmct1 New Member

    Very well said. As you stated, if you want a full-time tenured teaching position at a university or college, go for the top rated schools and pursue your degree in a classroom, not online.

    Whether you get a doctorate from NCU, Capella, Walden, Manchester, ect, none of these schools are prestigious and definitley not "top" tiered.

    Listen folks, there's nothing prestigious about earning any degree online. It dosen't matter if your degree is attached to a recognized brand name school.

    The stigma of you earning any degree online will always be out there, one way or another. Online degrees are designed for the busy working adult, with family and career obligations.

    The advantage we have is a strong resume, life experience and successful career background. Back that with an accredited online degree, employers will view you as a dedicated, motivated individual, with a drive for success and the ability to multi-task (balancing work, family and school). In my opinion, that's a true receipe for success in any employment market.
     
  20. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

    And the truth shall set you free... ;)
     

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