List you favorite conspiracy theory

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  1. Kizmet

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  2. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    It fell off the edge. That's a real danger that they don't want you know about.
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Not favored but current :)

    The 'Common Cold' Coronavirus Is An Effort To ‘Get Trump’

    “It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump,” Limbaugh said at the start of his lengthy, misinformation-filled rant.

    “Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. ... I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.”

    Coronaviruses comprise a large family of many viruses, ranging in severity from the common cold to more severe illnesses such as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), an epidemic that infected more than 8,000 people in 2003. A novel coronavirus, such as the current COVID-19 outbreak, is a new strain of the virus that has previously not been identified in humans, the World Health Organization clearly explains on its site.

    Rush Limbaugh,

    “The drive-by media hype of this thing as a pandemic, as the Andromeda strain, as, ‘Oh, my God. If you get it, you’re dead...’ I think the survival rate is 98%,” he said. “Ninety-eight percent of people who get the coronavirus survive. It’s a respiratory system virus.”
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    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

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  14. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    My favorite conspiracy theory of the year is from anti-vaxxers who believe that Bill Gates put a chip into the corona vaccines.
    I have even heard intelligent people mumble that nonsense.
    At first it was funny but eventually it becomes concerning that these people spout such nonsense.
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    My daughter joked that she was getting her autism booster shot, and my youngest son rolled his eyes when I told him I wasn't able to get him a PS5 yet because all the microchips they needed had been diverted to be put into vaccines. Sometimes all you can do with willful ignorance is find the funny side of it.
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  16. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    Covid-19 being a serious global threat. What a hoot that one's been.
  17. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    The truth lies somewhere in the middle here. It's not a zombie apocalypse. However, it has been a serious threat for people who are immunocompromised, and for a few unlucky ones that were sensitive to the virus for as yet unknown reasons despite otherwise feeling healthy. My two main concerns have always been to protect the vulnerable and to slow down the virus' mutation.
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  18. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    It's not just coming from "anti-vaxxers" though. I don't know or care about the whole microchip business myself because there is no proof. However, there are plenty of valid non-conspiracy theory, science-based reasons to be wary of these COVID vaccines, like--due to their speed of release--the lack of long-term safety and side effect data that every other vaccine (at least in the United States) in the time of modern medicine has had to produce--for the reason of safety--before being given to the general population.

    The reasoning behind the argument that this indispensable scientific measure loses priority because of the situation is an understandable thought process, but it saddens me that people are not at the same time understanding that it doesn't at all change the level of risk to doing it. I'm doubly appalled by the media and authorities painting it as if there is no real risk and everyone who questions that is a "conspiracy theorist" or an "anti-vaxxer" when prior to 2020 you would've been labeled a science-denier/quack/pseudoscientist for denying the need for long-term safety and effectiveness data of a drug or therapy, a scientific staple the authorities and media have used for many years against those who have presented alternative medicines and therapies with no such supporting data, and rightfully so. People really need to stop and think about that.

    In the long-term where side effects can show (with any vaccine, even one developed and tested for the standard 10-15 year timeframe before being given to the general population), there is always the possibility of adverse fallout... even more for these specific vaccines tested in humans for a mere fraction of the standard time, thus returning only extremely short-term data. It also doesn't help that the histories of the pharmaceutical companies involved are littered with lies, cover-ups and lawsuits because those lies and cover-ups regarded the safety, or lack thereof, of the drugs they've produced over the years and the injuries and deaths that have resulted from them.
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  19. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    In the United States you have to provide a EudraCT number and NID number if you want to register a compound under research.
    I work with medical protocols daily.
    You have to follow Good Clinical Practice, FDA guidelines and every adverse event is listed in an '' investigators brochure ''.

    If you change even the smallest study design detail in your protocol, an Institutional Review Board or Ethics Committee has to approve it.
    Literally everything is overseen.

    You need to fill out forms for the Biobank and those clearly state that all human samples need to be traceable at all times.

    People are fully informed, nothing is kept from them.
    GDPR in Europe and in the US the data protection shield are very narrowly formulated to protect your data from being abused.

    People are indeed exaggerating.

    30 years ago it indeed took 10 years for a vaccine to be produced. Because you didn't have the technology we have today.
    It's only in 2012 that the Higgs particle was discovered.
    Science has been developing at a crazy speed.

    Every regulated document that I have reviewed and held in hands clearly emphasized that : '' the well-being of the human subject must at all times prevail, even above scientific interests ''.

    The informed consent form is extremely regulated.
    Even the most minor changes to it need to be reviewed by an institutional review board a.k.a ethics committee.

    And I doubt they are going to approve Bill Gates putting a chip into it.

    In Europe the medical law clearly states :
    "Sponsor / Promotor shall assume all damage incurred by a study subject, even faultless, and they can be taken up on it in front of any court of Justice.
    Sponsor shall before the study takes its onset, close an insurance policy that covers all damage coming forth of the trial.
    Any and all clauses that try to minimize the liability will be considered null / void. "

    The law is way less up for interpretation nowadays than back in the day.
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, if it didn't impact you personally, I can totally see how that would make it irrelevant.

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