lawliness in CA on th rise

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Lawlessness in big cities is on the rise.

    Are progressive liberal policies failing the NY, Los Angeles, San Francisco and other large cities?
    It appears this way.
    Stephen Sorace
    Wed, August 9, 2023 at 7:22 AM PDT

    A mob of thieves was captured on video fleeing a luxury clothing store in Glendale, California, carrying armloads of merchandise reportedly worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in broad daylight on Tuesday.

    Bystanders outside the Americana at Brand shopping complex in Glendale recorded now-viral cellphone video of the dozens of masked thieves running out of an Yves Saint Laurent store.

    "All merchandise was taken in less than a minute," a store worker told LA 11

    Video shows that a delivery driver nearby tried to stop one thief as another bystander shouted, "Let him go! It’s not worth it."

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  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Hundreds of government employees in San Francisco told to work from home due to the high levels of crime in the area, report says.

      • Some government staff in San Francisco have been told to work remotely, a report says.
      • Department of Health and Human Services staff were asked to work from home due to local crime.
      • The city has been battling a drug epidemic and a homelessness crisis in recent years.
    Hundreds of employees at the Department of Health and Human Services in San Francisco have been told to work from home due to the high level of crime in the area around its office, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

    Unfortunately some
    America's cities have become horror stories of crime, dirt and death
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    166-year-old luxury retailer in San Francisco warns: This could be our last year

    Equally devastating have been a litany of destructive San Francisco (Liberal Democrat) policies, including allowing the homeless to occupy our sidewalks, to openly distribute and use illegal drugs, to harass the public and to defile the city’s streets,” he wrote.

    Chachas, who ran for a US senate seat in Nevada as a Republican in 2010, argued that current conditions make San Francisco “unlivable for its residents, unsafe for our employees, and unwelcoming to visitors from around the world.”

    San Francisco’s mayor, London Breed, California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, and the San Francisco board of supervisors’ offices did not respond to CNN’s request for comment.
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    His name sounds like a brand label, in an upscale San Francisco men's shop. :)
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And "lawliness" at the top of this thread. OK I know it was a mistake - but it sounds familiar. As if "lawly" and "lawliness" were real words - "lawly" being casual use for "somewhat legal" - legal..ish. All "ly" words sound a bit crazy -- after all, we did have a craze for them. But it's over. is Quantic U. now. Clad and cloaked in well-deserved DEAC respectability. Dynamite threads, says the fashion guy, here.

    "Hey, can they DO that? Like, is it legal?"
    "Um, not strictly legal perhaps, but definitely lawly. Yeah - lawly for sure."

    Right. Lawliness --- like Jon Stewart's word -- "Truthiness." Contains a small grain of truth and a magnum granum salis. And then there's Grammarly. To improve writing? THAT name really gets to me! :)
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  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Valid point, indeed I made a typo or autocorrect changed it.

    But still large cities are suffering from high crime, post pandemic changes in how business is conducted, people shopping on line all that is changing the cities.
    But crime is one of the major issues in large cities always was, this is cyclical and policy makers also have affect on it. I think on this issue from governor, to mayor all are accountable.
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I like holding the criminals accountable. That's the way I'd like to see it go.

    If people shop online and the stuff comes to their door cheaper and better than what they can go and get, by bus, walking or car ... what is a store property going to be worth in a few years? And yes -crime. Criminals can't readily flee from Amazon etc. with a stolen shopping cart full of goods... obviously they can, from stores.

    What does that tell us? Right. FAR fewer stores in our future. We have three malls in our town. Two bottom-feeders (junk) are taking out some stores - replacing them with residential condos. The third is upscale and might not have to do that for 200 years - I dunno.
    Their take - Pandemic - so what? Recession? What recession? Not many places like that, these days...
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    California’s governor is rushing to tackle San Francisco’s crime epidemic amid fears the city’s lawless spiral could jeopardize his presidential ambitions.

    Gavin Newsom has deployed state law enforcement officers to confront the city’s ongoing drug crisis, which has seen a surge in fentanyl-related deaths on its streets.

    As a beacon of American progressive politics, images of San Francisco’s abandoned businesses and crime-ridden streets have national significance.
    Mr Newsom, who is in his last term as governor, is conscious that the reputation of his home town of San Francisco is intrinsically linked to his own.

    In an interview with Politico, he said he was “mindful that the buck stops here”.

    “And I’m ultimately going to be held to account,” he added.

    As California’s governor, Mr Newsom runs a state that on its own would be the world’s fifth largest economy.

    But after a string of negative headlines amplifying concerns over crime in Californian cities, he has taken proactive steps to address hyper-local problems.

    “I feel like I’m being pulled back to being mayor,” he told Politico.
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Poor thing! :rolleyes:
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    California Governor Gavin Newsom is directing the California Highway Patrol (CHP) to triple the resources allocated to fighting organized retail crime in Los Angeles alongside a new city task force.

    The lawmaker’s office announced that CHP has been instructed to aid local L.A. law enforcement in combatting a rash of retail crimes that have risen to crisis levels in recent weeks. The highway patrol will allocate additional investigators to a new law enforcement task force devoted to combatting organized retail theft, which L.A. Mayor Karen Bass introduced on Thursday.
  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    From highway robbery to fighting robbery!

    Anyway, that made me curious why the highway patrol specifically, and that sent me down a Wikipedia rabbit hole where I found out that the California State Police was merged into the California Highway Patrol in the '90s. I guess it pays to have had your own TV show!
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  14. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Progressive liberal policies pay for the crumbling infrastructure of the failed southern states.
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  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Does "failed" mean "I don't like it"? Because it's not Oklahoma City or Savannah where you have to dodge human feces on the sidewalks or abandon your wares without resistance to professional shoplifters.

    I know Lerner posts... well, what he posts, but the problems in California aren't a right wing myth.
  16. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    There are real problems in California but the solutions aren't being offered by Republicans, especially those in other states. Homelessness and professional shoplifters aren't solved by cutting taxes, banning books, limiting education, outlawing abortion, firing elected officials and/or abolishing their offices, or any of the other ways that modern Republicans respond to social ills.
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  17. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Where are the homeless people in the (liberal) cities from? Often from (conservative) towns. It's a shared problem and likely to need shared solutions. (This was one of Jack Layton's recurring points.)
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You're cherry picking, though, because they also don't tell the police not to enforce property crimes, which it sounds like is part of the problem there. The right is also more likely to support zoning and other regulatory reform that makes it easier to increase the amount of affordable housing.

    Look, you know my point here is not, "Look how great those super smart Republicans are!" Especially so considering what they've decayed into during the Trump era. But if you can look at San Francisco and think that the left has it all figured out and that the right has nothing to offer, that's the triumph of ideology over observation.
  19. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    "I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood..." – Trump, July 2020
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    So? Trump is a populist, not a fiscal conservative. I mean, the guy just called for an across-the-board 10% tariff on all imports, which would be a complete disaster.

    I really do have a point here. Don't miss it on purpose.
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