I was reading about this medical school WHO approved and accredited by St. Kitts. Mixed opinions. They appear to have produced doctors practicing in a number of states. They use DL for first two years and clinical rotations at sites in the US, etc. Fairly inexpensive (much cheaper than Oceania). http://www.iuhs.edu/admissions/iuhs-overview/ A looming problem for all Caribbean Medical schools would appear to be the CAAM-HP approval required in order for graduates to sit for US Medical exams after 2023. This will cause a problem for some schools depending on US based students. IUHS does not have certification. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Accreditation_Authority_for_Education_in_Medicine_and_other_Health_Professions
How funny! I must be developing amnesia. I searched for the school after having seen it before. Turns out I posted on your thread about it!
Very happy to see that news. I've long been skeptical about the WHO list, which merely lists medical schools approved by sovereign national governments, with seemingly no regard for the standards (if any) required of medical schools by those governments. The WHO list is based on political criteria more than educational or medical ones. The CAAM-HP by all accounts is trying to run a pretty tight ship. They are advised by the Liaison Committee for Medical Education (the medical accreditor in the US and Canada) and base their standards on LCME standards. Yes, it will hit some of them hard. Others, like Ross or St. Georges which are CAAM-HP accredited, will probably see more applicants. Some of the non-accredited ones might start specializing in students from India and places like that. We've already seen that. But even in those cases, part of the attraction was the idea that a foreign graduate of one of these schools could go on to practice medicine in the US.
I think the idea of the first two years of Med School by DL is interesting. Basically, as I understand, it is science related and lends itself more to it with Clinicals in the latter part of the program at approved sites. I think this and Oceania are the only two I am aware of doing DL. You always have the difficult STEP exams to measure outcomes. That said, at least in the case of IUHS (as opposed to Oceania), they better get the approval to stay viable. Caribbean Med Schools rely I would think mainly on US students. They could try and recruit students from other countries but that may prove difficult with such a steep price tag at most of these Med Schools.
Then I stand corrected. I thought the majority were US students (tapping into Federal Student Loans and so on).
The majority could be Americans, but in SVG there are a lot of Africans, middle eastern, and asians. To be honest, there are all on their way to the USA. Medical schools in the caribbean is a short stopover on their journey
If your end goal is to practice medicine in the USA, going to a foreign medical school is too risky! US accredited residency programs are difficult enough to obtain for US graduates of MD/DO schools, let alone foreign schools. Even if you're fortunate enough to obtain a residency, it will probably not be in a specialty of your liking. As far as online medical schools, etc., I wouldn't even touch it! Just my two cents.
Do you have any statistics on the success rate of foreign medical graduates placement? My niece is interested in medicine but she has ruled out foreign medical schools as too risky. In Canada that seems to be true because unsuccessful graduates in Canada seemingly find success in the USA. Anyway, I truly want my niece to find success thus my need for the statistics for the USA.
I just happened to find an article about a 2017 murder-suicide at a Bronx hospital. The perpetrator was a physician, and there seem to be quite a few physicians the Caribbean medical schools. What fun! I mean, hell, it's New York City. Still, they seem to have a lot of representation from these schools. I don't think I'd want to have a heart attack in that neighborhood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronx-Lebanon_Hospital_attack
But there is nothing in the article about the quality of the medical service. The situation is a sad one . If there is any thing positive is that these foreign organizations are filling a void in the American inner cities. I may assume in the rural areas also.
With a quick search, I found this link: https://www.ecfmg.org/news/2018/03/16/imgs-show-strong-performance-in-the-2018-match/ (Interesting note, this statistic is for first year match) Those applying for 2nd, 3rd, 4th year matches are not mentioned. Most States require 3 years of residency to obtain a license if you were foreign trained. This is called a categorical match into a specialty. It appears about half the US FMG (US citizen trained foreign medical graduate) and Non-US IMG (non citizen international medical graduate) applicants were matched. So flip a coin. Those who attend US DO or MD schools chances rise to 90% plus. Apparently, Canadian residencies can be dual accredited for USA and Canada. I have practiced with fully trained Canadian Physicians including the residency portion and they had to take the United States Medical Licensing exams to practice in USA. Although, each State has its own requirements as well! On the flip side, Canada also will accept many US residency trained physicians but they have to take the Canadian licensing exams. As far as DO trained not too sure! The DO outside of USA is considered a chiropractor in many countries and not a Physician and Surgeon. Another obstacles is the difficulty of obtaining a Visa.
There are issues in Canada with getting residencies. It is getting harder (with some provinces cutting the number of residencies available). I imagine that it is tougher if you are a graduate of a foreign medical program. https://healthydebate.ca/2018/03/topic/medical-students-carms
Here is a very sad story of a medical school graduate who committed suicide. He could not get a residency in spite of a lot going for him (see article above about the Canadian residency issue). He was a 100,000 grand in debt and felt there was no future (as a doctor). https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/news/canada/2017/06/17/tragic-case-of-robert-chu-shows-plight-of-canadian-medical-school-grads.html
Why was he within the 1 - 2% each of those years not selected for a residency? With those odds I don't think it is indicative of a system failure as much as something else going on in his record. As far as the system goes, it would make sense that the number of residencies aligned with the number of graduates. If they aren't ready for a residency, they don't graduate; then you are stuck with someone a few hundred thousand dollars in debt without even a degree to show for it. Which is why you get people that for whatever reason have graduated but there is something that is making them not ready or inadequate for a residency. I am sure that this person knew about the odds, thinking them to be in his favor, and wouldn't have had a problem with the current system if he was among the other 98%.
This makes sense to me. I've heard of people not liking the choices they were given but I've never heard of someone not getting any choices at all.
