Is a PSYD from CSU worthwhile if not leading to licensing?

Steve Levicoff: Oh, you mean my non-profit RA Ph.D.? (I've added the "non-profit" part because I think it's a nice touch. Especially after the Argosy debacle, which I have been thoroughly enjoying.)

RESPONSE: No, I mean your non-profit "Name it and Frame it" doctorate. Please recall that the level of credibility of doctorates from your Alma Mater at the time you attended was found to be sub par by the Ohio Board of Regents, resulting in their placing your school on probation! Many graduates from your "Name it and Frame it" school in Psychology at that time were severely frowned upon by their respective state boards and could not obtain licensing. A number of dissertations at that time were written on the level of essays and would never come close to meeting today's standards for doctoral level research.

Steve Levicoff: And your doctorate? Oh, I forgot - you don't have one, and are unlikely to get one. (By my count, you've been doing these posts for well over a dozen years in more than one forum and under more than one name. Are you ever gonna get it together to actually earn a doctorate? Hell, you've been ABD longer than sanantone at this point.)

RESPONSE: My degrees are not in question but yours are. And you know why? Because I don't use my degrees and credentials to bully other posters into submission, or to fallaciously use them to "win" arguments as you do in every one of your disputes with others.

Steve Levicoff: Anyway, I feel no need to defend my credentials since they're public and well-established. You will always ultimately be an anonymous troll, so enjoy yourself, schveetheart.

RESPONSE: Steve, I truly feel sorry for you and I mean it sincerely. To constantly put down other degree programs such as CSU, which requires actual doctoral level work, as well as other schools discussed on this forum, as if you are a Harvard, Princeton or Yale doctoral holder, when in fact your school at the time you received your doctorate would be trashed on this forum if it existed today, is truly pathetic.

 

SANANTONE: It's amazing that a man as old as you puts all of his value in a PhD from a school that would accept just about anyone and let people make up a degree in anything. Are you in your 50s, 60s, or 70s? Is Phd wannabe the best insult you could come up with? That's not even an insult.

RESPONSE: Not only did his Alma Mater allow individuals to make up the composition of their doctorates but they were composed at the time of a hodgepodge of seminars, self readings, conferences and other questionable sources that today wouldn't allow one to complete and obtain a two year community college degree.

SANANTONE: You could have written the books only a couple of schools care to use without a PhD. You could have driven trucks without a PhD. You could have had temporary teaching jobs, especially back in your days, without a PhD. You could have trolled this forum for almost two decades without a PhD. Just like the life you have led, your PhD is largely insignificant.

RESPONSE: For the very issues you present above is the reason why Steve needs to push his "Ivy League" doctorate down the throats of posters he disagrees with because there is no substance to the majority of his posts except bitterness, devaluation and anger concealed in the form of sarcastic "humor".

SANANTONE: If I'm not mistaken, I think you're the guy who played a guitar and BS'd a bunch of PLAs to get his bachelors degree. Thank goodness TESU increased its standards. Then, you studied theology outside of a real school of divinity. Theology and religion, while I find them interesting, are areas in which a bunch of low-IQ charlatans get degrees. You didn't study anything challenging.

RESPONSE: Unfortunately, we need to contain Steve's using this forum to continue to act-out his issues by constantly derailing threads such as this because he claims he's "bored" with the topic, or it does not meet his expectations, as if he is the arbiter of what is right or wrong to discuss on this forum. In fact, he is seeking dominance and submission of others, a situation that may have worked in the past, but should no longer be allowed to continue on this forum.

 

Phdtobe: Living in the bitter cold of the Arctic, I been starve for entertainment. Anyway, prolong meanness to each other is no fun, well for me. I like the professional, or specifically, educational achievement rivalry; It can be motivational; but not when it comes with animus. Anyway keep on rolling- hit back harder is a decent strategy but to what ends.
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Two very accomplished people:
sanatone - five degrees
Steve - four degrees with Doctorate[/QUOTE]

RESPONSE: I agree with you. However, there is no moral equivalence in this case because one of the participants is a provocateur and fomenter extraordinaire, resulting in an inordinate number of derailments of others' threads with vitriolic, sarcastic and devaluing attacks, with no substance, clearly to bolster his self-esteem at the expense of others.

 

Jan, relax. You are spilling too much ink obsessing over Steve Levicoff. Attacking his PhD is ridiculous and comes across as childish. If you believe he is being childish, don't stoop to it. It is like wrestling a pig. You get muddy, the pig wins and enjoys it. He is playing you like a fiddle.

Union Institute and University is hardly a "name it and frame it" operation. Did it have issues? Yes, as have many, many others. Evidently, it straightened them out (they are still around). UIU has an accomplished listed of alumni (partial in link) and was innovative for its time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Institute_&_University

 

Garp: Jan, relax. You are spilling too much ink obsessing over Steve Levicoff. Attacking his PhD is ridiculous and comes across as childish. If you believe he is being childish, don't stoop to it. It is like wrestling a pig. You get muddy, the pig wins and enjoys it. He is playing you like a fiddle.

Response: In fact I'm very relaxed and am merely addressing an ongoing problem with Levicoff disrupting and derailing numerous threads.

I suggest that instead of placing the onus on me for engaging in these disruptive interactions that you direct your advice directly to the poster who would benefit most from your obvious "unbiased "counsel. .

Garp: Union Institute and University is hardly a "name it and frame it" operation. Did it have issues? Yes, as have many, many others. Evidently, it straightened them out (they are still around). UIU has an accomplished listed of alumni (partial in link) and was innovative for its time.

Response: You are stating the obvious! There was not one negative mention of problems with UIU in it's current form, but in the past, as I clearly related.

 

"Unbiased counsel"? Not sure why that is in quotes.

Are you enrolling or have you enrolled at Calsouthern? If so, what are the classes like?