Iran's Ahmadinejad: Israel should be wiped off the map

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by JLV, Oct 27, 2005.

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  1. dcv

    dcv New Member

    Lord knows those intelligence officers are always right. :rolleyes:
     
  2. lspahn

    lspahn New Member

    I personally would prefer that they NOT blow each other to smitherens (sp?), but I dont think, with the current Iranian language, that a conflict can be avoided. JLV, I saw you are from Amsterdam so I have two question for you:

    1. What is the Europeon Take on this?

    2. Can I stay at your place during the Queens Birthday party?
     
  3. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    1. The 3 strongest EU countries, Germany, France UK, the Big Three are negotiating with the regimeof this idio and his predecesor for months so far unsucessfully.

    2. Given the amount of alcohol used in Queensday, and the traditional Dutch empathy for foreigners (especially Americans) chances are that you´ll quickly find a more confortable place to sleep that night. :D
     
  4. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    Yeah, there is no way they can be trsuted. That´s why someone should take action before it is too late. That country cannot gain access to nuclear weapons. It would be the end.
     
  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Ten years?

    Unless they simply BUY what they need from North Korea.

    I really, really wish Jimmy Carter wasn't President during the Iran Hostage Crisis.

    A proper use of force THEN might have forestalled the situation NOW...
     
  6. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Re: It means more than we are willing to admit

    Back in 1991, we found that Iraq indeed had a nuclear weapons program and that it was far more advanced than anyone had suspected. We suddenly discovered that they were just months away from a bomb and it was quite a shock.

    http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/iraq2~1.htm

    (It's an illustration of Saddam's stupidity that he invaded Kuwait before he had built a few bombs and publicly tested one of them for the world's viewing pleasure. If he had simply waited 18 months or so, we might never have dared to confront him.)

    After the first Gulf War, I think that the intelligence agencies, both here in the US and abroad in places like Britain and Israel, decided that they weren't going to be caught underestimating Iraqi weapons developments again. So they started putting a worst-case spin on all the information that they received.

    That went on for ten years, while we flew combat air patrols over Iraq every day, enforced embargoes and periodically lobbed in flurries of cruise missiles. And all the while Saddam tried to look like he was hiding something, probably because the hope that he would soon have a nuke supported his status as the big man in the Arab world. He wanted to be the man who stared down America.

    So in that context, the US took all the 'see no evil' UN inspectors' reports with a huge grain of salt. Subsquently, it turns out that the inspectors basically had it right. Saddam had never reconstitituted his WMD programs, and had just been bluffing. But until we went in and turned the place upside down, we couldn't really know that.
     
  7. mattchand

    mattchand Member

    Re: Re: It means more than we are willing to admit

    Bingo.

    Matt
     
  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    "Hans, Hans, Hans. How many times do I have to tell you? I don't have any weapons of mass destruction, okay?"
     
  9. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    The material needed to kill hundreds of thousands of people can be stored in the trunk of two or three vehicles. Of course, one still needs a distribution method, but.... I don´t know really. Over here, some news analysst say that Bush is mad at Rumsfel who was the one who convinced him to go to Iraq. According to those analyses, Bush thinks now it was a mistake to have gone there. Perhaps this is just a rumors or simply unfounded gossip.
     
  10. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    Yeah, OK, but they were always making their work so difficult everyone believed he had something. Period. Even Clinton did (and bombed repeteadly Iraq with altar boy, Blair), trying to facilitate the work of that Australian UN scientist, whose name I forgot. Scott Riley? Well, something like that. Saddam´s istakewas to believe the world would let him control such a geostrategic region. If he had ben a little bit smarter he´d be still the President. What pisses me off in a way, is that the US is destroying or debilitating the secular republics in the Middle East (like Iraq or Syria), and tolerating the most dangerous regimes like S.A. If it was up to me, Saudi Arabia would be "straightened out" to use an euphemism. Osama is a Saudi after all.
     
  11. For once we agree.

    Saudi Arabia and its hideous Islamic religion fueled regime is at the heart of the problems that are facing the civilized nations of the world today. It sorely needs chastisement of the most serious nature.
     
  12. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    Which frightens me........

    Not only that. It funds radical religious movemtns like the wahabbies. They have a quid pro quo relationship, a tacit alliance, by which they tolerate each other (islamists and kings.
     
  13. Scares the crap out of me too my foreign born friend....!

    Have a Happy Holidays.....!
     
  14. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    Thanks. Have yourself a Happy Christmas! :)
     
  15. Mike Wallin

    Mike Wallin New Member

    America uses Israel to test things

    When Israel gets a jet then they make adjustments and tell Boeing what is wrong and this is done without cost of American pilots lives....so both countries benefit...the aid America gives Israel means more jobs for defence contractors here in the U.S.
     
  16. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    Finally, they have decided to take Iran to the UN. It is not that it will help a lot since Russians and Chinese may block any presure measure taken against Iran, but at least they do something about it. I still hope they bomb the entire nuclear plant facility ASAP.
     

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