Iowa Republicans are furious and confused over Trump's reported DACA deal

Bruce · Sep 19, 2017

heirophant said: ↑

If Trump hasn't done anything, then why is he being opposed so frantically?

I'd suggest that in the eyes of his voters, he's already engineered something of a revolution:

As far as Trump's voters are concerned, writing new laws and regulations, constantly expanding the size and intrusiveness of the federal government, isn't always the best way to respond to every perceived problem, whether real or imagined. Slowing that down is a victory in itself. So for Trump voters, a long list of legislation passed isn't what they want to see. That's not necessarily how they judge him. (Especially when they know that he's fighting not only the Democrats, but the establishment Republicans as well.)

It's a victory to have an administration that isn't going to use the Justice Department, EPA and IRS as the enforcement arms of one political party, filing federal lawsuits and demanding audits against anyone who opposes their agenda.

It's a victory to have an administration that doesn't believe that US immigration law is merely optional. While tax law, business law, civil rights law, labor law, environmental law and all the rest must supposedly be zealously enforced, even if the laws conflict with people's desires.

It's a victory to have an administration that doesn't treat free-trade as an object of unquestioning faith, as it makes a wealthy investor-class ever richer, while factory towns are devastated and millions are out of work.

It's a victory to have an administration that realizes that the reason why the United States won World War II wasn't because we had better soldiers (the Germans and Japanese had excellent soldiers) but because we were able to flood the world with ships, tanks and planes, all in the short span of 3 1/2 years. So what's going to happen if the US goes to war with China and they have all of the factories?

It's a victory to have an administration that's willing to wean the US off imported Middle Eastern oil in favor of greater reliance on domestic energy supplies.

It's a victory to have an administration that is willing to tell allies that they have to contribute more to our joint alliances, as opposed to always being free-riders dependent on us while criticizing us furiously behind our backs. (Americans see that and start to think, 'fuck Europe'.) It's simply a fact that with the end of the Warsaw Pact, Europeans no longer face any existential external military threat, apart from the Baltic Republics perhaps. So let the Europeans handle the defense of Europe, with us to lend a helping hand if they need it.

It's a victory to have an administration that takes a more skeptical view of China, which is where the long term threat will come from. (Even if billionaire Silicon Valley moguls dream of China as the 'yellow brick road' to infinite wealth.) Hillary and Obama spoke of the need for a 'pivot' in our strategic focus from the Atlantic to the Pacific. They were right.)

It's a victory to finally have an administration that isn't racist, constantly playing divisive identity-politics with favored voting blocs.

It's a victory for the Education Department to rein in Title IX, stopping the federal demand (otherwise lose federal funding) for universities to set up their own parallel "justice" system, kangaroo courts to try political cases (often accusations of sexual harassment or sexual assault) in parallel with the police and conventional justice system, without any sort of due process for the accused such as representation by an attorney or right to question those making accusations, and with university administrators (compliance officers whose job is to get convictions) serving as prosecutors, judges and juries.

It's a victory to have a President who is personally willing to challenge 'political correctness' and the 1984-style attempts to control the boundaries of discourse by rewriting history and by trying to control what can and can't be said (and hence, thought).

It's a victory to have an administration that's revealed journalism, the media and academia to be distorting fun-house mirrors rather than sources of an accurate, unbiased photographic depiction of reality.

And it's a victory to have an administration that isn't motivated by neo-puritan moral judgementalism, trying to shame opponents into submission with incessant accusations of moral guilt. ('Racist! Fascist! Bigot!).
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Wow.

Bravo.

Bruce · Sep 19, 2017

Stanislav said: ↑

Yep, no reason to take this wall of text seriously.
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Translation = I have absolutely no counter to that.

Stanislav · Sep 19, 2017

Bruce said: ↑

Translation = I have absolutely no counter to that.
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Do you also think sexual assault is a "political crime"? Then I don't see a reason to "counter" this, just like the rest of hierophant's canned Gish gallop.

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