Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by nosborne48, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    "In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." -- Alexis de Tocqueville

    "I have seen the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo by Walt Kelly

    There wasn't a thing about this president that wasn't known prior to his election. The lying. The corruption. The vile behavior. The idiocy. The hate. The criminality. It was all there. Yet America made him the president. It's why I can't blame him as much as I blame us. As Bill notes above, we might very well make that choice again. But as we're seeing this week, to do so is to say goodbye to democracy and self-governing. But that doesn't seem to be important to an awful lot of Americans anymore. We'll see.

    “Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”
    ― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic
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  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    Unfortunately, what really happens is that everyone gets the government that only the majority deserve.
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  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Uh, this time the minority got the government it sought. America is now a 55-45 country, ruled by the 45.
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  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Active Member

    Yes, exposing Trumps often repeated lie that the electoral system is rigged against Republicans.
  5. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    It certainly is a lie... as it seems if anything, the DNC is trying to rig it for Trump to win a re-election. Bloomberg Considering HRC as VP. Regardless of one's view on her competency... one would be hard pressed to find a more divisive figure that does not address any of Michael Bloomberg's weaknesses, while also solidifying the Trump base.
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Active Member

    I was talking about the basic structure of the electoral college system in general.

    So for example, a person's single vote in the Presidential election is worth about 3 times more if you live in Montana or North Dakota or South Dakota or Wyoming than if you live in California or New York.
  7. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    I was being facetious :( ...although, that perhaps may be simply a cover for having no bloody idea how the DNC can continually sabotage elections that would be almost impossible to lose. Sigh..
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Active Member

    Well, IF Bloomberg wins the nomination, I can't imagine him picking HRC as his running mate. He's smarter than that and the folks working for him are way smarter than that. :emoji_fingers_crossed:(My guess is that they floated that idea to just get a little free publicity.)

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