I have Resigned from NCU

Interesting, you got me on this, I concede that you’ll have the last laugh. Anyway the equivalent fulltime salaryof $140k per year is not that bad. It may not be enough to sustain the $1000 per trip lifestyle, but $1000 per week may be feasible

 

According to Amtrak, a first-class round-trip ticket on the Acela Express from NY to Philadelphia is $350. This assumes an afternoon departure and a return in the evening of the same day. Note that the Acela is faster and costs more than standard Amtrak.

Then he hosts "a tablecloth dinner" for 6 (himself and five students) at the White Dog Cafe. Fodor's rates this particular restaurant at "$$$$" (their most expensive rating). Want to take a guess at the tab? It's certainly $hundreds more.

And let's not forget that he has "a waiting town car" in Philly to shuttle him to and from the train station. He probably doesn't ride the subway in NYC either.

It adds up.

 

Reading this thread is scary ... I have an interview with Indiana Tech on Friday for their PhD program. I don't want to teach in higher ed except potentially as a sessional/adjunct upon retirement ...

Indiana is RA and currently has 65 students in the program. (It's in its 2nd year) so there would not be a graduation rate ... the faculty and their research interests look good and match what I'm looking for ... and the price is reasonable $615/credit and there's a 3 day residential immersion each year.

So ... should be scared or excited???

 

Thanks and I agree. My point (which no one ever gets) is that I would have never paid $30, 50, or 70K for a PhD unless it was from a traditional school and my plan was to mostly teach. I got the NCU degree because it was near free with tuition assistance.

 

Same here. I paid 10k for a regionally accredited doctorate at NCU.

 

TUI was a wake up call for me to leave the business. I took a non paid training and then was offered to teach 50 students for $50 bucks a head.

The school charges thousands of dollars for a doctoral course per student but we get only $50. Does this makes sense?

I was also not very happy with the University policy of "no one fails here". I was told that if a student fails an assignment, I should contact the student and ask to resubmit the assignment. I got the feeling that the school doesn't want to fail people that keep dishing out the money. The school was also the only school that did not pay for training.

Some schools are too money hungry.

 

Wait a minute.... are you encouraging me to take classes? Actually, I was looking at the AACSB Bridge Programs (AQ and PQ). I was considering the AQ program at UF or Tulane until I unoffically inquired and was told I was probably not get in. Are post docs offered online?

In the future I will consider a few things like a certificate in consumer psychology or I/O psychology from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology or a certificate in HPT or MEd from UWF.

 

Actually, I meant a paid post doc position at a good school. Check Jobs for PhDs — Find great jobs at Jobs.PhDs.org. Positions pay about 40K a year but it might be worth it if you want to jump to Academia. Many professors get jobs because they got post docs at good schools. I know of some people that even do post docs with no pay just to put the school name in a resume.

 

That is what I thought. Honestly, in my current position I make a good salary and have a great job. If I did leave this job it would only be to teach online fulltime. I have been traveling extensively for the past 11 years so a change for me must include never leaving home! I worked in a niche field and wanted to expand my options by continuing my education. While working on degrees I was promoted to management. I have a lot of management experience (which could transfer anyplace) and a good educational background. I really can not see myself working at a school everday. That is just not a goal for me.


*Disclaimer - everything I said is subject to change without notice

 

Neither, but you should be realistic about what you are in for. Have you read any of the established PhD guides? A good one would be "Getting What You Came For" and "How to Complete and Survive a Doctoral Dissertation." Both these books do a good job explaining the entire process.

If all you are looking to do is adjunct once in a while, you might be better off with a second masters.

 

Wouldn't surprise me he is trying to write these expenses off his taxes.

 

Did they say why?

 

After following this thread, I don't know if I should quit Capella University. The school of Business and Technology charges students flat rate ($4,485 per quarter). I know most people in my class take only 1 course (4 quarters). The academic advisers would not recommend students to take more than 2 courses.

Well, I have the same as Dr. Randell, I would pay to these schools for a Ph.D in the $70K. I attend Capella because of 2 more years of Post 9/11 GI Bill. I plan to switch to George Washington University's Ph.D in Engineering Management or Management Systems. I just hate the useless comments from the instructors.

 

You should be excited for the opportunity. You should never let anyone scare you from your goals. I assume that you know why you want a PhD, and the fact that a PhD is not suppose to be easy to earn, before applying for the program at Indiana Tech (why is a B & M school). You'll do fine. Goodluck with the interview.

 

TEKMAN,

You are in the 1st quarter right? What courses are you enrolled in this quarter?

Shawn

 

UF - My PhD was not from an AACSB school. The conversation was quick.
Tulane - I spoke to them for about 30 minutes. They told me that on occasion a non-AACSB PhD will be accepted but it is rare. They had someone completed the program with an "online PhD" but they were a VP of marketing at a fortune 500 company and publish several books on marketing. The individual reviewed my CV and said I was better suited for the PQ program.

 

Will George Washington University's Ph.D program accept any of the Capella credits? If you plan to switch, would it make more sense to just start in the program you want?

 

Thanks ... indeed I do know why I want a PhD and the reason is intellectual curiosity along with a desire to do further research on leadership. I enjoyed doing my final research paper for my M.Ed. and would like the opportunity (and impetus) to do another. As well, I'm a school junkie ... I've done pretty much all my schooling beyond high school part-time from BA right on up ... so it's a hobby of sorts. As a final thought ... it would also be a matter of personal achievement ... I like meeting challenging goals. :-D

 

How about writing a book? Unless you desire to teach in higher education, trying to earn a PhD (and be one of the 10% who actually get your degree conferred) is certainly a waste of your time and money. Moreover, it is not a challenging process or even that interesting; instead, it is mostly a BS process that few professors seem to have the testicular fortitude to change into something meaningful. In addition to the business side of the "doctoral program" meeting the legal definition of fraud, there is also the dire ethical problem of Human Subjects Protection and Informed Consent, which no trained researcher would ever knowingly participate in. (Again, I am speaking generally with no particular school in mind...)

 

Dr. Shawn A,

Yes, I am still in the first quarter. I am taking only one course; which is OM8004 - Managing and Organizing People and Track 1 Colloquium. I dropped 2 courses because I wanted to change major from Organization and Management to Information Technology.

The problem with Capella University everybody convince me to take at least 3 1/2 years to complete the program instead as early as I could. I still have only 2 more years of Post 9/11 GI Bill. Are they trying to milk money fro my pocket?

Dr. Randell,

Well, I don't think George Washington University would take any transferred credits. Their program requires 54 credits, 30 credits from coursework, and 24 dissertation credits. The only problem that I don't want to stay in the Washington D.C area for 3 more years. The program is cohort; therefore, everyone must be in the same pace.