I have an interview with UoP

Discussion in 'Online & DL Teaching' started by Randell1234, Feb 10, 2008.

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  1. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    I have all the faith in the world in you. :)

    I should elaborate....your UoP mentor will be invisible to the students other than the mid and end point surveys; he/she won't get involved in the class environment. He/she will be in constant communication with you during the class via e-mail and your mentorship newsgroup.

    I think you'll find that running a UoP class is quite similar to the other school I referred to you, with threaded discussions, team assignments, etc.
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    Two schools you referred me to...two positions...where do I sent the check? :cool:

    What do you think the winning lotto numbers are? :eek:
     
  3. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    I'll PM you my numbered Swiss account information. ;)

    If I knew, do you think I'd share them to split the winnings??? :D
     
  4. nobycane

    nobycane New Member

    OMG! Talk about the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing over there at UOP/AC........
    The recruiters are so unorganized and cannot seem to get their stuff together it isn't even funny.
    They cannot seem to file my credentials accordingly.....they also claim to not be able to send me this online interview survey either....but they tell me via email! So what is with that?!?!?!?!
    Then they claim to have misplaced my application, then they claim that my application was mislabeled because "they" misspelled their own names of their courses and job listing!!!! What a joke!

    So they sent me an email telling me to reapply for the position they misspelled and mislabled, which is not listed anyways nor posted. So I replied that I could not because they do not have the position listed........they replied "...ok, sorry - try applying in 3-4 months, maybe there might a listing then. Thanks for your interest in UOP/AC."

    What in the blazes is their problem over there!?
    Are they that fowled up where they cannot even process applications, job listings, etc.?

    Oh well, screw 'em! I do not think I want to work for a bunch of cluster f**ks like that anyways. At least I just got picked up with a community college here locally for 2 courses this summer, and maybe something more in the fall!

    CHEERS!
     
  5. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    Oh gosh, they're horrible... and I'm not even the one dealing with them. My wife has had a horrible time with them. She's currently in their training course, which is a joke. The instructor is some idiot with an MBA who obviously know nothing about training. I've read some of the things he's posted, and he's already contradicted himself several times.

    I suppose it's good that they have a rigorous recruiting process, but based on my experience with UOP, they still manage to hire idiots. I still can't get over one of their professors telling me I didn't know the difference between a primary and secondary source (which, obviously I KNOW), and when I asked her to clarify she couldn't explain the difference.
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    This is the second time in two days I have felt insulted on this board. :mad:

    I am moving along smoothly...maybe they like me more then they like you :cool:
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks, I appreciate the character assassination. :mad:

    I'm starting to wonder if there is a Bizarro-University of Phoenix out there. I never had any problems during the recruitment, training, or mentorship phases, and they have yet to so much as screw-up one of my paychecks.
     
  8. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    Gosh, Bruce and Randell, I meant nothing specifically toward either of you. I simply had a HORRIBLE experience with UoP. I mentioned the one instructor in my previous post and her inability to explain something that she called me out on. Here's another example. The first course of their teacher-ed programs is called "Professional Communication". I minored in communication in undergrad, and am certified to teach speech communication in high school. When we began discussing basic communication theories, I brought up a bunch of stuff we had discussed and read about in my undergrad classes. She pretty much acknowledged everything as hogwash, simply because it didn't fit the UoP curriculum. On numerous times I pointed out how this class was presenting information that was completely opposite of what I had learned in undergrad, and gladly provided the documentation to demonstrate my points. Again, she would completely write it off and even reprimanded me for going "against the curriculum". I inquired with my advisor about the instructor's academic background, and she had no background in communication theory. She was just a special education teacher, which is what my wife is. My wife is great, and I love her to death, but her experience as a special education teacher doesn't qualify her to teach a graduate level course on communication.

    From what I've read of you two here, I'm pretty sure you have better ethics and a higher intelligence than that woman, and probably all the other professors I had at UoP. I did have one instructor I really liked, however. She was very down to earth and actually participated in our discussions to help us move along. I think she was the only one I actually rated positively in all the surveys they made us do.
     
  9. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know what else to say except my experiences with UoP have been pretty much the polar opposite of most of what's been posted here. The woman who ran my online training course had her M.Ed. and did a very thorough, professional job. Ditto for my faculty mentor, who was always available to answer questions, offer suggestions, etc.

    Any organization the size of UoP is bound to have their share of lemons, but in my experience they've been very much the exception rather than the rule.
     
  10. 1virtualprof

    1virtualprof New Member

    I've taught for quite a few online colleges and universities over the years, and believe me they ALL have their "lemons." Online profs pick this up when current students say things like "none of my other professors greeted each student individually in the first week introductory forum" and "WOW this is the first time any professor has ever given me comments with my weekly discussion grade." And then former students write and say "I sure do wish my new professor got our papers and grades back to us as fast as you did" -- that sort of thing lets you know that there are always lemons everywhere.

    There are two things that students want more than anything else. The first is interaction on a continuing basis with the professor (there are many ways to do this and it doesn't mean posting in discussions every day!!). The other is timely and meaningful feedback with grades.

    Anyone who can do those two things will be a great online prof.

    ~VP~
     
  11. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    Progess -

    I have completed the required "lab" for UoP and hope to be in the new instructor training session starting on 4/1.

    With a full load from all schools (and no life except work and study), I should make a nice sum of "extra" money.
     
  12. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    Well, here is the update - I start online instructor training on 4/1. After 5 weeks of training and passing it, I will be mentored for 9 weeks (I think it's that long), if I pass that I should be on board.

    They pay $1,235 per 9 week class. They said the average adjunct gets 3 classes per semester with 4 being the max. I think that is what they said, I have gotten a lot of info from them.
     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    That's odd.....I've never heard of UoP having 9 week classes; every one I've seen is 5 weeks for undergrad and 6 weeks for graduate. :confused:
     
  14. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    Nine weeks for Axia. This is from them:

    10. What is the instructional model for Axia College of University of Phoenix? The following are a list of points that outline the instructional model:
    Classes are 9 weeks in length.
    Classes run Monday through Sunday.
    New courses start every Monday in this year round program.
    No learning teams.
    Short answer questions will be built into curriculum.
    Discussion questions will focus on content, not work experience.
    Written assignments will be an integral part of the curriculum.
    Some knowledge-based tests may be developed in future versions of the curriculum.
     
  15. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    That explains it; actual UoP classes (not Axia) have a much different format, which is interesting.
     
  16. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    I'm done with UoP...well they are done with me-

    It's over...I am a UoP failure! I will not be moving on with UoP as I did not pass the first two week training program. I posted a few things late (my fault), had problems getting into the flow of the website (my fault), had problems finding what I needed on the site (let's call this one shared fault), and was completing my Comps class for the PhD which required a lot of time and effort (my fault). Last week was a national meeting which I was involved in running and time was very limited (my fault) so I could not give UoP as much attention as I wanted. I will be going to Japan in July and would not be able to teach that semester anyway.

    This speaks highly of UoP's quality control with respect to instructors. I am just pissed that I blew it. I would like to think it is their loss but that is, well, a lame way to feel better.

    I was told I will have a "red mark" on my name forever. I will probably never get in with them but I spoke to my recruiter and she said to just apply in 6 months. Anyway, if anyone get into UoP, take the training very serious because they certainly do!

    Time to feel sorry for myself.
     
  17. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    Hold you head up Randell. I think you did your best, you had a lot on your plate at the time. Just re-group and try again later. Good luck to you.
     
  18. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    Wow....I don't know what else to say except sorry. :(

    As I've posted before the UoP selection, vetting, and training process for faculty is the most extensive I've seen. It's been nearly three years since I went through it, and it was like the online version of a prostate exam.

    I certainly can't blame them....you just know there are plenty of people out there who would love to "expose" the UoP process by intentionally not meeting standards, then sounding the alarm if they happened to slip by.

    I do think you'll be given a second chance. Awhile ago I forgot to post feedback for a class in a timely manner (I was sick as a dog); I was assigned some remedial training as a refresher so I know they do believe in redemption. You also teach in a popular field, so I would resubmit in 6 months as they told you.

    Chin up, old boy!! :D
     
  19. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks. I do teach 18-24 credits a semester, am work on a PhD and have a demanding corporate position so I guess this was the "systems" way of telling me that I am at my limit. As a side note, my wife was happen to hear I failed out. She said, "How much can you really do and do any of it well?" By the way, this is the making-myself-feel-better time. :)
     
  20. 1virtualprof

    1virtualprof New Member

    I'm sorry to hear about what happened. Bad timing, for sure. But you know what, it happens like that sometimes. I have no doubt you'll have other opportunities and you'll do great.
    ~VP~
     

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