Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by bceagles, Mar 18, 2004.
And, the correct URL is... College Badges for Excelsior College by CollegeFactual.com
But...there's always a 'but'...the typical Big-Three student won't be like the typical butt-in-seat teen student. Maybe night school adults would be a better comparison.
All three have a lot of working adults. Excelsior has a disproportionate number of RNs, LVN/LPNs, paramedics, active duty, guard, reserve, and veterans in comparison to most other colleges. Excelsior is probably most comparable to UMUC and American Military University.
Excelsior College is the largest nursing school in the USA. 50% of students are nurses and 40% military. Excelsior College claims to graduate more military (not enroll more), but I am not sure that is true. Almost all have jobs and careers which is why all of the big 3 are excellent. Excelsior College grads always on average make more $$$ than TESU/COSC in every website that I have seen.
They make more $$$ than University of Oregon grads also.
Interesting website! Badges and making $$$ do not seem to match up!
42 Badges Excelsior College $50,000
42 Badges TESU $38,000
9 Badges COSC $37,000
This is not really the case. Most of Excelsior's students are military, LVN/LPNs, and paramedics. They start out earning a little bit more than TESU students since TESU students tend to be people in dead-end jobs looking to make a change. When it comes to mid-career salaries, TESU students earn a little more than Excelsior students. So, it looks like TESU students have slightly higher earning potential, but these things are contingent upon various factors. Business and STEM majors are going to earn more than liberal studies majors, on average. People who live on the east and west coasts are going to earn more than people who live in the Midwest or South, but the cost of living in those areas are also different. Looking at overall averages doesn't help much. You need to know what people are earning with your degree in your region.
Additionally, University of Oregon graduates have higher mid-career salaries than TESU and Excelsior graduates. You can't compare new graduates from University of Oregon to the Big 3 since most University of Oregon students will graduate between the ages of 22 and 24, and their prior work experiences probably include working in the mall or at a fast food restaurant. In the end, though, they come out ahead.
Charter Oak State College students do end up earning significantly less than TESU and Excelsior students, but COSC only offered general studies degrees up until a couple of years ago.
Early Career Mid-Career Alumn
$50,400 $90,500 56% TESU
$53,800 $89,300 71% Excelsior College
$48,000 $77,800 65% COSC
$50,000 42 Badges Excelsior College
$38,000 42 Badges TESU
$37,000 9 Badges COSC
College Badges for Excelsior College by CollegeFactual.com
I agree about COSC. I hope they keep adding new degrees.
For the past 2 months I have been looking for a new career opportunity, full time search. I quit my last role to focus on a full time search. This is my first career search that includes both EC and an MBA stacked on top of it on my resume. I would put myself in the middle manager / low level executive category. I have been on more than a dozen in person interviews, I've had twice as many phone interviews, all with very large Investment Management firms (including the 2 largest) and the education listed on my resume hasn’t been questioned up to this point.
In one interview the hiring manager, when I asked if I was deficient any “skill sets” that he was looking for, made the comment while pointing to the education section of my resume “You have all the credentials”.
One of the in-house recruiters / HR reps that I spoke with is based out of NJ and didn’t question EC, even though she informed me that she went to Villanova. My point, someone in the hiring process who obviously places value on their own alma mater and is geographically located close enough to EC to potentially know of/heard of it didn’t question it.
A few takeaways:
I do still believe that the optics of burying EC under a more traditional brick and mortar MBA was the right thing to do.
I do believe that EC alone in the education portion of the resume does still carry some level of risk of being questioned, adding one more level of education above EC alleviates most of that risk. I think even a graduate certificate from a recognizable brick and mortar college/university would get the job done.
Having the conversation about the optics of EC as it relates to hiring managers and the hiring process is still productive.
Being prepared to explain Excelsior College when asked is still definitely recommended. Thanks to this discussion, my answer (if I’m ever asked) will confidently be “Excelsior College is a small private Liberal Arts school located in Albany, New York”
All in all, EC is sufficient to “check all the boxes” during the job search process. EC has definitely cleared all the education requirement hurdles.
Thanks again for all the feedback in this thread!
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