High School diploma

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Hille, Jun 27, 2019.

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  1. rodmc

    rodmc Active Member

    I am a professional businessman with a sterling reputation. I suggested we meet and speak about your incorrect beliefs and you immediately assert I plan ill will? Typical online bully. You attack someone’s reputation and character, and when you get challenged on the issue, you play the victim card. You are a joke, Steve. Perhaps you better consider your actions and the public finding out what a sleazeball you are.

    Since my business and I personally are evaluated by accrediting agencies and the State government, and my claims are vetted and verified, your claims are pointless and your statements and false. Everyone knows this.

    Indeed, I am a sportsman, an athlete, a mentor, an educator, a coach, a dad, a philanthropist, and many other things. I have personally helped thousands of people improve their lives, and I donate over one hundred thousand dollars every year back to the public education sector, the military and children’s cancer research. You come on here and spout off that I am a “con artist” You are a joke, and no one cares what you have to say, Steve. You are simply an old fool with no life.

    And you claim I am not the first to have a problem with you? No surprise. Everyone sees you for the joke you are. If you don’t want to look like a fool, perhaps you should keep your trap shut. The funny thing is when people read this in the years to come, you will look even more foolish. You are truly irrelevant. I am thankful to know that others feel the same about you.
     
  2. Mary A

    Mary A Member

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  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Steve and Rod can either learn to manage their behaviors or they can let me do it for them. I prefer the former but will settle for the latter if necessary.
     
  4. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    First of all, accredited online high school will take WAYYYY TOOO LONG. Most don't allow acceleration in a way that makes sense. In other words, you can't CLEP out of 12th grade English - you have to TAKE 12th grade English. I think it's a terrible idea for an adult to do this.

    In order to enroll at any college, even community college, you'll have to have a GED or diploma.

    So, here's my suggestion- you don't write ANYTHING on your resume or application about your high school. You're 20 years graduated, no one at that age includes their high school and or diploma. What you can do, and is my advice, is to go to the local CC and get registered for their adult GED/diploma program. Most places offer this for free. That allows you to get a college name on your resume in a legitimate way, and not have a blank spot under education. You don't have to say what you're studying- just list the college name and say "in progress." If invited to an interview, and if asked, you can explain what you're doing. Most people find it admirable that an adult would go back and finish their education, so this isn't a point of shame unless you frame it that way.

    Second and separate, community colleges all have an adult education division. It might be called something else like Continuing Education, Professional Development, etc. but they have one. Those courses do not require GED/Diploma for admission. Get signed up for something asap. These are direct career programs - so if you are thinking healthcare, then scoop up a CNA or a phlebotomy cert right away. One and done- get going. You can build a bridge to higher aspirations as you go.

    I would suggest doing both immediately. You can finish by end of summer.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I never checked in to this claim, but people say that GED is inferior to HS diploma. I never heard about CC denying enrolment to GED holders.
    Maybe direct applicants to state universities that are dealing with competitive entry have less success.
    I read that getting a GED is actually not equivalent to obtaining a high school diploma. Statistics have shown that 33% of high school diploma holders receive their bachelor’s degree in college, as opposed to less than 5% of GED test takers.
    Employment is maybe different.
    But when one is pressed for time than CC adult education courses can be as mentioned a fast way to something.
    I know a guy who learned small engine airplane maintenance in 6 months.
    Was placed as apprentice in a small airport, slowly gained experience and certifications. Became shift supervisor and later Final Testing/Approval manager.
    He is now working for a DOD contractor and very happy.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2019
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    There's a lot of guesswork, vague rumors, loose statistics and third party anecdotal evidence going on in this post. The fact is that the E in GED stands for equivalency and that's what it is. Now some people might be snobbish and look down their noses at someone with a GED but that says more about their personal psychology than it does the diploma. A large percentage (?most?) people earning GEDs have been homeschooled and quite possibly may have gotten a superior education than they would have by attending classes at their local high school.

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/513049-are-you-serious-people-with-geds-can-actually-get-a-phd-from-harvard.html
     
  7. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    FWIW, homeschool diplomas are valid in all 50 states. To pursue a GED as a homeschooled student would be the same as for a public or private school student, which is to say they stopped schooling/ dropped out. You CAN stop without dropping out, but homeschool parents can simply graduate their teen - at any age- no reason under the sun to do a GED as a homeschooled student.
     
  8. copper

    copper Active Member

  9. copper

    copper Active Member

    "The complete test battery lasts 7 ½ hours. The tests are rigorous; GED candidates must meet or exceed the performance of the top 60% of graduating high school seniors. This means that four out of 10 traditional high school graduates could not pass the GED Tests. "

    https://www.collegetransfer.net/AskCT/WhatisaGED

    I didn't realize the GED was "rigorous". I am told one on can retake sections. I still believe it's a better pathway for adults!
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Next you'll try to tell me that FAQ doesn't mean "Facts and Questions"

    [​IMG]
     
  11. copper

    copper Active Member

    You seem upset. Did I upset you? My sincere apologies. Have a nice day!
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I always thought it was a General Education Diploma, but I see the ACE and others term GED as General Education Development (GED).
    States and jurisdictions award a Certificate of High School Equivalency or similarly titled credential to persons who meet the passing score requirements.
    People who took GED state that this is a very rigorous exam (up to 7.5 hrs?)
    The bad stigma is because it's associated with high school dropouts. If you ask an average person the answer is it's for school dropouts.
    Yet people with GED went to community colleges and from there (with or without earning an AA, AS degree) to elite universities, saving two years of student loans.
    Some community colleges that I know have students continue their education in top universities.
    One of my kids went to CC for 2 years and from there to a state university that initially when she applied after HS rejected her application. She graduated university this May 2019. Within a month she quit her sandwich shop job and got a much better paying job directly related to her major But this is another topic.
     
  13. msganti

    msganti Active Member

    When I did Pennfoster high school, all courses were open to me (as soon as I paid all the fee) and I could finish as soon as I can.
    Just saying.
     
  14. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I can see why a person might avail themselves on an online high school if they are homeschooling. Not that it is the best option, necessarily. But you pay for a series of conveniences. Tests and assessment are taken care of. Curriculum is taken care of. Transcripts are taken care of. In many cases, books are included in the price as well. It's certainly an option.

    For the adult learner, it makes much less sense than just taking the GED. Even if you take a prep course, it's a fairly cheap proposition. I can't speak to its rigor. Though I've known quite a few employees who tackled it on the first try. Then, of course, there are the states that award either a GED or a high school diploma if you have enough college credits. Also a solid option.

    There are many paths to the same goal. I'm not sure why some of these discussions devolve so rapidly. Nothing is cut and dry. The right decision for one person is not necessarily the right decision for someone else. For me, at the time I took the coursework, CTU was a great choice. Under the right circumstances I'd be happy to have one of my kids follow that path. I doubt those circumstances will apply as their upbringing is VERY different from own.

    Though admittedly, this was one of the most entertaining threads I've read in quite a while.
     
  15. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Yes, but you still had to do them. Why would you want to do them if you didn't have to?
     

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