have NA master's...want RA master's

You are entitled to stick with any statements you wish. The problem is that whenever one makes absolute and definitive statements without corroborative data to support their contentions it is merely an expression of their beliefs and opinions, nothing more.

 

I can see where in work areas such as telecom tech your observations regarding NA and RA courses would be accurate. However, in many other professions such as where the MBA is expected or a graduate degree in Psychology or for teaching on the college level I can assure you that those doing the hiring (including job recruiters) are generally very cognizant of where one obtained their advanced degrees and that generally one will be in a very disadvantageous position without an RA credential.

 

Simon this is a message board I think your Analyzing my statements little bit to much. The bottom line is you have haven't back up anything with absolutes either ...

I've stated that everything I've said is my opinions based off my personnel experinces . You can take its for what its worth..

as far your statements there "poppycock" untill you give us the absolutes .......

I could respect and validate your view points if you could give me your back round

 

Yes, in certain circumstances such as as for job promotions and even for application to certain graduate schools DETC degrees can be of utility. As mentioned it appears that in IT DETC course credits can be an asset on par with RA. However, it is essential that posters who are considering such degrees should primarily determine the accreditation requirements for the job or promotion they are seeking, licenses needed or the graduate school they wish to attend prior to plunging head first into a DETC degree program.

 

MBA? I would say yes and no. What about the ones that are RA but not AACSB? Would you think that a MBA from a RA but not AACSB accredited school would be in disadvantage? Should an employer look down to graduates from non AACSB accredited schools and think that they are loosers wannabes?


Psychology? If you want to become a licensed Psychologist, RA is not enough you need to graduate from APA accredited school.

Teaching at college? This depends, if you want to teach business the AACSB accreditation is becoming a must as most schools are looking for this accreditation and are hiring people from schools accredited by the AACSB. If you want to become full time tenure, it is a fact that Universities have a bias against people with online doctorates.

 

When looking for an MBA program, you should keep in mind who you are likely to be competing against for positions. I work managing a private medical practice. Graduates from AACSB schools are not clamoring to take my position, so an RA MBA with IACSB accreditation will work for me. An NA MBA may work just as well, but I went with Baker College anyway.

This is a bit of a red-herring, considering that being RA is a pre-requisite for gaining APA accreditation, IIRC.

All of this is true, but, while colleges may or may not want an online, RA degree holder they rarely, if ever, want an NA degree holder.

 

Simon, I have a feeling you work in the field education and hold a bias towards RA schools. which is very relevent to this discussions. I have not attacked anyone or anyones statements maybe you should look in mirror.. If someone feels that NA MBA will work for them so be it.

 

SIMON: In general, in order to obtain a position in a university teaching business or whatever, especially when hiring for these positions is very competitive, one generally requires a doctorate (such as in business and usually a Ph.D versus a DBA). And yes there is generally a biased attitude towards those with online doctorates.

 

Can you guys stop for just one second while I run to the kitchen to grab some popcorn?

 

POPCORN! I need aspirin!

 

Re: Re: have Dubious NA master's...want RA master's

I'll add that an increasing number of RA schools are accepting NA transfer credit. So an inexpensive school like Penn Foster, Ashworh, Eugene Bible College, may be viable options if one intends to later transfer into an RA program.

 

Have we lost sight of the dilemma of Jamie's post or should I say the underlying problem with his NA degree.

Let me start by saying that I don't have a problem with NA degrees. However, I chose AMU over Columbia Southern because of AMU candidacy status with RA accreditation. I too wanted to be able to teach in the future and was not sure if an NA degree would open that door. It might in the future, but I did not want to take that chance.

The AMU degree would have served my purpose for the short term, but I would have been rooting for AMU accreditation...now I don't have too.

So, the underlying question that needs to be answered is, can one teach at a JC/B&M/Online with a NA/DTEC degree?

Hopefully by now Jamie has enrolled in AMU before they change their minds about the 15 units and before the rates go up.

 

yes the board has drifted off topic...

I wasn't trying to debate na/ra

I was just trying to say a Degree's worth regardless of its accreditions is equal to its voluntary acceptance by Businesses, professionals, and academic communities.

and that a degree undergraduate or graduate from an DETC school would open doors that otherwise would be shut.

not sure how thats gross and misleading

 

AMU Graduate Transfer Credits

Don't rely on AMU providing the full 15 credits for transfer. I also graduated from CSU and completed 11 graduate courses mostly in criminal justice at Northcentral. When I received my credit transfer evaluation form from AMU, only 9 credits transferred into their masters criminal justice program. The counselor explained that on average, 6 to 9 credits are accepted. I was counting on the full 15 but that didn't happen.

 

Not always. In California, an unaccredited but state-approved PsyD will qualify one to sit for state licensure exams.

 

DETC vs Nasty Regional Accreditors

A poll might be interesting - but of course the results will reflect exactly how the poll is worded...

The "several posters" you refer to may be in the minority, but they certainly make up for it with leather lungs. Some past statements by a notorious DETC cheerleader:

 

Not that any of the RA v NA is helping the poster but I wanted to add my .02

Having worked for several Fortune 100 companies I know for a fact that are HR department has a book to verify if a school is accredited. It is a list of CHEA schools, they have no idea (most of them) what RA/NA is or whom any of the RA's are. Its a yes or no type of thing. Often times they don't even look it up, that is why those banner ads work and why the mills pick names that sound close - No one looks them up if it sounds familiar.

Unless its a top school they tend to lump them all together.

They tend to be more worried about drug checks, criminal checks, and if you ever had a suite against a previous employeer. That is really the function of HR these days, protect the company. The days of them being the employee advocate are long gone - despite the image they try to present