Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Rich Douglas, Apr 16, 2004.
Re: anything you want
More likely if the check or credit card clears you are awared it!
For a fascinating look at the twisted logic and rationalizations employed by degree mill (in this case Farington) customers and/or their shills, see this thread on the teachers.net (of all places!) forum.
Hi Gus: Those ain't teachers. Those is educatwhores.
It seem the trend of comments on here are at the same level all the time, no improvement. It seem more focus on witch hunting than pushing for high standards of credentials.
I have done some basic research and it seem the trend is moving in the direction to recognize learning of all types. The interesting one I found is the French now allow full degrees by non-traditional methods. But be careful the recommended method and standards are very high.
Most US schools in some way grant credit for non academic learning. I think a lot of persons on here could be seen in the same conext as not allowing women or minority to vote. their view is how could your life experience degree be compared to my RA acquired version? To me its just simple human nature at work, nothing else.
I do agree there are sub-standard schools out there but I do not think the concept is wrong.
Sorry about my terrible english.
Not only French also Belgium as similar law that allow someone with acredited experience to do it. This is a post from other forum where explain how in your own country one of your most prestigious agencies of evaluation are using the French Law with the "Université francophone Robert de Sorbon".
"This is owned and apparently run by AUAP (Dr J.N. Prade), one of the biggest (possibly the biggest) credential evaluation firms in the USA (est. 1995), and the only evaluator to be a member of the American Council of Education (ACE) apart from WES. For years, AUAP has done experiential assessments for clients as well as evaluating foreign credentials (discussed previously here). Now they appear to have formed a body that can legally grant degrees as a result of such assessments.
Many similar bodies have no serious assessment behind them. However, the assessment of AUAP is something I myself would take very seriously. I note that with a degree from this institution you can get an evaluation to US RA equivalency from AUAP - there is a list of the universities that have accepted such evaluations at the AUAP site (www.auap.com).
It does look as if this may well be what many people have been waiting for. I have made a few preliminary enquiries myself and they appear to be solidly set up, even if the website is less than polished. They are legally incorporated as a degree-granting body in Anjouan and registered as a foreign university in Maine."
It seems that AUAP now understand that when a westerm country like France are giving this kind of law, may be is worth to spend time to take money on make a real PLA to test if you really are qualificated or not. Are France Government in the same level than Liberian Government?, I am sure not at all. Now you can say naturally that AUAP in not SRU of course, I will be agree on it, but the conclusion about the PLA, based in your own AUAP is that PLA degree must be really accepted, of course under very hight supervision, equal than a RA.
The problem, I have with this school is that they make claims but if that is the case then all reputable universities in France should offer the same the degrees by the same means.
As I have always said, the concept is good but people use it for their own money making ventures not really to grant a proper degree.
This is school is not setup in France that has the law they claim give them the right. That is a big problem
Accreditation in the United States
The United States has no Federal Ministry of Education or other centralized authority exercising single national control over postsecondary educational institutions in this country. The States assume varying degrees of control over education, but, in general, institutions of higher education are permitted to operate with considerable independence and autonomy. *
* Excerpts from the United States Department of Education, Office of Post Secondary Education website.
IS THAT THIS MEAN IN US THERE IS NO CONTROL AT ALL! BIG MONEY!!! ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE CAN GO THROUGH THIS SITE TO BUY A CERT---- ANYTHING, ANYTITLE, JUST NAME IT!
From a Government-as-God perspective it means there is no control. Otherwise, it means otherwise.
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