ENEB One Exam Master's Degrees

ENEB is going full diploma mill for a limited time. You can pay a little extra to earn an entire master's degree with an unproctored, 50 multiple choice question exam. There's more info at degreeforum.net.

https://ibb.co/SPR60xD

 

And I thought that time I got three graduate credits from a proctored exam (C201 at WGU) was way too simple.

If a school with no history did this they would be shamed as a mill instantly. That so many have worked so hard for these degrees the old way is a real shame given what this will do to their perception.

 

They've gone from "propio" to "highly improprio." I didn't SEE this coming... but somehow, I FELT it might. This may well end up with disastrous effects for people whose degrees were earned properly, if all ENEB-sourced degrees are lumped together by evaluators. And that - I can DEFINITELY see coming.

 

What's next? El Doctorado Instantáneo? (The Instant Doctorate?) You have an hour-and-a-half to write your 2-page diss. online?
No thanks. No "El Doctorado" for me. Maybe a nice, fully-restored Eldorado convertible instead....

 

That would be the shortest dissertation taking over the 9 pages of David Lee Rector: An Unstable Adams Spectral Sequence (1966).
URL: https://web.archive.org/web/20210408210424/https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/81193793.pdf

 

Took a look --- nah. I'd rather write something that would get me that vintage Eldorado ragtop. Like this Biarritz: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-cadillac-eldorado-biarritz-convertible-8/

'85 was a really good year... classy!

 

I guess I wrote 159 pages more than I had to. Haha! At Liberty, the lit review alone is expected to be at least 30 pages, but I don't agree with such requirements.

 

You're in good company then, Chris. Looks like MIT doesn't agree either. They granted Dr. Rector his PhD. with a thesis containing a grand total of EIGHT references. I haven't read that many, but this document doesn't even look like the traditional dissertations I've seen. Not divided into the same sections. I guess Math scholars get to do things differently...

I even felt I had to look up another source (MIT) to verify this was, in fact, a PhD. thesis - and it is.
https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/139704

 

Over on the sister forum it looks like people are talking about this too. I looked on the ENEB website and didn't see any mention of this. Are they advertising the MBA by exam on their website? It looks like it was coming through on people's emails as a limited time (3 mo) offer. I did notice on the sister site someone posted this link which talks about it, so it seems like this is open to the public not just alumni:

https://newsletter.eneb.es/x/?S7Y1.J9ra2JiZP4.x9bMwtj4f5GtqbGZsYGB5f_c.GTbvNTy4pzUkpLUIr3UvNQkvdRiAAA88&Z=1802634285

I could see why people are concerned. We've obviously seen other graduate schools offering an MBA by exams. Specifically, Heriot-Watt's no undergrad degree required MBA comes to mind. However, most of them required multiple exams and I don't think any of them were this short. Someone on the sister site also stated that it's a possibility that University Isabel I might be viewing the new MBA different than the usual ENEB degree, but as far as I see it looks like it's going to be the same since both are certified by University Isabel I.

I suspect this is likely to end up passing through WES as legitimate, at least temporarily. I was always a bit concerned about ENEB, which is why I never pursued it. I think when it was first being discussed I hadn't started my MBA program, and then others started jumping into ENEB about the same time that I started my MBA. At that point we didn't know that WES was going to approve the ENEB degrees. I have on numerous occasions thought about finishing the current MBA and then seeing if I could transfer the finished course work to ENEB to finish another degree without having to complete as many papers for another degree. Then again, I have also considered doing the same thing at Heriot-Watt. I do wonder if these emails are only going out to people who have already completed an ENEB degree with the thought that they would already have most of the basic knowledge to pass the test, and it's a possibility that each test is different based on the degree but with many overlapping questions between similar degree types i.e. MBA and Master of Marketing. Anyhow, I am suspecting that WES is not informed of the format of coursework completed, so I don't see any reason they would deny it right off the bat... although possibly later on if they catch wind.

If this was open to everyone, I wouldn't mind trying at least one. I agree that it just doesn't feel like a full degree, more like a certificate. Of course that's easier said before any of us have taken the actual exams. We could all be drastically underestimating the difficulty of the exams. Regardless of how easy it would be, I probably couldn't pass an exam on aerospace engineering or something like that. However, I have not really seen any difference between undergraduate and graduate level classes in terms of content. I certainly would not mind some sort of graduate level recognition for something along the lines of marketing/sales/etc for $99 that I have enough experience in that I could probably pass cold without studying.

If anyone does go for this let me know. I would be very interested to see their practice exams to know how hard these actually are. I'm also curious if they're going to let people complete this that have not completed any other degree with them.

 

I am also curious if this is just $110 flat or if it's $110 PLUS the usual Groupon fees (~$199+).

 

"Reasons? We're WES! We don't need no stinkin' reasons!" (Apologies to B. Traven - "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.")

"Suspecting that WES could not be informed" on ANYTHING is a highly risky uh... suspicion. They probably have a "List of Confidential Informants" longer than NYPD's.

 

From what I can tell, it is in addition to the cost of the fees. Also, that cost will increase by about $200 on July 1.

 

I agree, they don't need a reason. However, I think a few people might still get this evaluated as a full degree until WES finds out the format changed. Since people who complete it are not likely to clue WES in about the format change that could be awhile. The big question will be if they will say this is a full degree until they find out, and then go back and say that it's not a degree to people who they already said "Yes, it's a full degree" to. I think it's a risky thing for people to take on if they need a masters degree vs just wanting to have knowledge academically recognized.

 

Right. A degree like this is like - five o'clock. "It's always five o'clock somewhere." One of these ticky-box master things "is always a Master's degree --- somewhere." In this case - Spain. Anywhere else, I figure it's a crapshoot at best.

 

I wonder what graduates with that school's doctorate think?

 

So it is necessary to buy the regular Master first and then pay another 100 dollars for the "change of evaluation method"? It's not clear to which Master this offer applies?

 

@Johann766

Which degrees - the site indicates any/all of the following. I presume that's any degree offered by ENEB/Isabel1 at the indicated level. The text below deals with the ECTS awarded at completion.

"If you have taken the Global MBA exam: 90 ECTS • If you have taken a Double Master’s Degree: 72 ECTS • If you have taken an MBA or Master’s degree exam: 60 ECTS • If you have taken a Management Development Program exam: 30 ECTS"

It looks like this one-exam thingy applies to degrees that have been paid for but not yet completed. And the EXTRA fee is 99 Euro - not $, to change the completion method (from writing papers to one exam). They mention that as of July, the EXTRA fee goes from 99 Euro to 299 Euro. If you choose it, your one-exam thing will be available on the virtual campus from Sept. to Dec. 2023.

And any work you have completed on the degree before selecting the one exam will be pretty well wiped out. One exam - covers all modules, including the ones already completed:

" If you have passed any subjects and you choose to adhere to the change of methodology, you will need to take an exam for the entire content of the educational program, and the grade you had obtained will be modified."

This thing has more caveats than a Roman dog pound. CAVE CANES! (Beware the dogs!)

Johann 666

 

RRRRUFFF! ENEB MORDET. CAVEAT EMPTOR. (ENEB bites. Let his buyer beware.)

 

My first thought was also that this new ENEB thing is a joke.

But when I think back about the days of me studying as a regular student at a state university with a good reputation - in quite a few subjects is was possible to do the exam without attending the classes, just by learning the study script. And in some subjects the final exam after one semester was multiple choice and lasted one hour. Was is easy? Definitely not, at least not for someone with my IQ.
So how is this experience from a state university any different from what ENEB does?

However I think that a 2-hour test for a 2 semester / 60 ECTS program is too short.
As a student I usually had 5 subjects each semester, each with an one-hour exam at the end of the semester. So 2 Semesters would be 10 subjects, which means 10 hours of exams.