Do you think Michael Moore is bitter?

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Mr. Engineer, Nov 9, 2004.

  1. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Dear Friends,

    Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in
    the words of Monty Python, 'always look on the bright side of life!' There
    IS some good news from Tuesday's election.

    Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

    1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

    2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since
    Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

    3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults
    (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always
    wrong and you should never listen to them.

    4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the
    country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don't approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

    5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the
    Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the
    Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do
    their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

    6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of
    our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West
    Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water,
    all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in
    lava. And no more show tunes!

    7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any
    old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut.
    May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.

    8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will
    no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If
    you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly
    golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

    9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married
    in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't
    have to buy now.

    10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress,
    including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to
    have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates

    11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!

    12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

    13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3
    chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state
    legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the
    2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53
    chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47
    chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber
    (Montana House) is still undecided.

    14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than
    the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out --
    and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work
    that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th
    grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the
    next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the
    ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his
    point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.

    15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very
    dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two
    scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the
    Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear
    that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that
    history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for
    too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and
    arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such
    major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from

    16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting
    age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it
    means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards
    to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of
    those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go
    home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three
    yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are

    17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the
    candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total
    number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore.
    Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for
    a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time
    since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has
    always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is
    that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact,
    that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones
    who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November
    2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of
    surprise in 2008.
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Nice diatribe, Mr. Engineer, but the fact remains, Bush was elected and there is nothing you or Moore and his ilk can do about it.

    You and the anti-Bushites are doggedly determined to spin his election in a negative fashion.

    In the words of Martin Luther King, Jr.:

    "It is still one of the tragedies of human history that the children of darkness are frequently more determined and zealous than the children of light.
  3. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Uhh - Jimmy baaby!

    I didn't write this silly - MM did. I didn't say I agreed with him, I just stated he sounded a little bitter.

    Of course Karl Rove (err - GW) won. No one is disputing this fact.

    (well, except MM)
  4. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Unfortunately Michael Moore is both bitter and sad. It is one thing to put forth an agenda you believe in, it is quite another to become isolated and create propaganda that is untrue and a distortion of facts. It is his kind of far left politics that lost Kerry the election.
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    This is about as dumb as saying

    Joe Lockhart (err - John Kerry)


    Mary Beth Cahill (err - John Kerry) ;)

    From your favorite Republican who used to be a member of the Libertarian Party and at one time the Socialist Party, USA and at one time the Green Party and at one time the Prohibition Party and at one time the Tisch Independent Citizens Party---------------until I got smarter and wiser!

    Now I am a Republican for life with a strong affinity for the Libertarian Party. I may end up having dual membership in both the the GOP and LP.
  6. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    As Canadian investor, it seems that Bush re-election has made me some money. The Canadian dollar is almost 85 cents of a American dollar, the highest in many years. My american currency bank account has reported me good profit and seems to be raising since Bush re-election.

  7. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    I am very surprised that GW would align himself with Karl Rove. If you study this man's background, you would find that he is as scummy as most convicts. I think sleazy would be a better term. Everytime I see this little fat slimeball on the tube, it makes me want to puke.

    You were in the Socialist Party? G-D Commie! :D
  8. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hmmm political ad man that is scummy. I bet that is unusual! :D
  9. jugador

    jugador New Member

    "As Canadian investor, it seems that Bush re-election has made me some money. The Canadian dollar is almost 85 cents of a American dollar, the highest in many years. My american currency bank account has reported me good profit and seems to be raising since Bush re-election."

    And as an American, I want to sincerely thank Canada for the massive influx of physicians and other healthcare workers you send our way. I am quite familiar with what is going on down here and up there as a result of your socialized medicine, and I must give Canada credit for educating and exporting some truly fine physicians to the US. We'll keep sending you our disgruntled wacko Democrat chic left snobs and welfare loafers and you keep sending us your doctors. Sounds like a fine arrangement to me.
  10. javila5400

    javila5400 New Member

    Liberals love to play the race game. Dark skinned Americans may take over in fifty years, but that does not necessarily mean the democrats will dominate either. So don't turn this into a white / minority issue. Many minorities have been lied to by the democrats. "White people are this and white people are that."

    As far as the gay issue, gay males unanimously voted for Bush. Do you know why? They thought "he was cuter."
  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    How bitter can a guy BE with $120 million and permanent tax cuts?
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Actually the Socialist Party, USA is very anti-communist! As a matter of fact, they opposed the immediate withdrawal of American troops from the Vietnam War.

    My journey of affiliation in various political parties has been healthy, informative, and educational.

    I grew up in the South and always voted for moderate Democrats because they were also racial moderates. When Republicans happened to be on the ballot (in the one-time solid Democratic South) I voted for them.

    I was very active in the GOP from college days to the Reagan era when I thought the GOP was moving too far to the right. So, I joined the Libertarian Party. They became too fixated on the legalization of drugs and supported granting children the same rights as adults.

    So, I joined the Prohibition Party because of their moral stances. The Party was (and is ) going nowhere. The Prohibition Party supported (and still does) a strong environment. So, I joined the Green Party because of its environmental positions.

    The Green Party became laden with dissenters and one could find within it, far leftists which was not to my liking. So, after a period of being an independent and seeing the GOP not moving to the center, i joined the Socialist Party because of their stands on capital punishment, the environment, utility companies, civil rights, etc.

    A number of members of the Party became Castro apologists so I said Adios! I flirted with the Reform Party for a while but it became too disorganized. The GOP was still too far to the right so I again joined the LP because they seemed to abandon the child's rights issues and, for a while, seemed to focus on being a multi-issue Party but this didn't last long.

    After watching the Bush Administration from 2001 to 2004 I began to see a moderate man in the White House and the GOP moving towards the center. So, I became a proud Sustaining Member of the Grand Old Party.
  13. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    If that won't make a guy Republican, what WILL?! :D
  14. gkillion

    gkillion New Member

    I'm sorry....did you say Ted Kennedy?
  15. Kit

    Kit New Member

    Mikey does sound rather bitter. Ahh well, he can thank himself (partially) for the fact that Kerry lost the election. Michael Moore's over-the-top look-at-me antics scare people, and for good reason. Has anyone seen the answer to his Fahrenheit 911 film .... FahrenHYPE 911? It's a real eye-opener. So is Dave Koppel's essay "59 Deceits in Fahrenheit 911". Michael Moore is the Goebbels of his time and seems more interested in self-promotion than anything else.

    BTW, interesting educationally-related factoid about Karl Rove: He attended a half dozen colleges without ever earning a single degree or certificate.

  16. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    He is, apparently, extremely close to finishing the Bachelor's and already accepted into a Ph.D. program.
  17. grgrwll

    grgrwll New Member

    And who would MLK identify as "the children of darkness?" Probably both of these candidates, I would guess.
  18. kevinc

    kevinc New Member

    People like Michael Moore and the rest of the "hollywood" grandstanders make me sick. They'll go on and on about how bad Bush is, make wild accusations and statments that they won't stay in the US if he's elected and then nothing... I wish to God they would all leave.

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  19. firstmode4c

    firstmode4c Member

    Michael Moore sounds like a very mean person.
  20. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Saw Moore on Leno the other night. He had a haircut, was clean shaven, and wore a suit.

    He looked like Jerry Mathers.

    This shows how stupid and gullible the left think America is. Merely changing "stripes" doesn't change the message.

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