After following the discussion on this board, I can't help but surmised that it is not focused on DL issues at all. Why not rename this board as RA DL Discussion Forum? From what I sensed, it is the 'ego' factor that hinges on RA graduates who worked so damned hard in getting their degrees. It is not pleasant to find that what they got is on par with non-accredited schools. Likewise, graduates of traditional brick and mortar schools will in some ways find their degrees better than those who obtained them through DL. And, those DL graduates would also like to show their 'superiority' over the unaccredited graduates. When a RA school were to give credit by attendance, RA guys will say it is of RA quality. When this happens to an unaccredited school...that's inferior and substandard ! Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder and one man's meat is another man's poision ! When CCU graduates holding high posts or academic teaching positions, there are people who said that CCU degrees are not needed there and then for those positions. Some posters even went on to say that it is embrassing or a time bomb to list CCU degrees. Whatever it is, I have seen quite a number of CCU in prominent positions but why are they not embrassed yet? Ha, perhaps.... some of these posters may try or waiting to embrass them There are laws in every state and country. There is no right or wrong in every situation. Of course fraud is not permitted by all standards. Who defines standard? Take a look at the 6 RA agencies. Are all of their standards being equal or the same? Only in countries where there is only one standard of accredition or recognition then we can be assured of the a broad application of such standard. It is fraudent to buy a degree and to list the courses in the transcript. By all standards, it is not to be accepted. Yes, CA state approved standard may not be great but this does not mean there is an'oversight' on their part. If bias posters find that CA approved schools like CCU, Cal Pacific... are mills, then they are implying that CA is a mill approver. A degree is only a door opener unless we are talking about professional occupations like medical doctors or engineers. If jobs are only selected based on degree status, then why are RA graduates needed to be selected from the pool of RA applicants? Whatever it is, the candidate itself is of greater importance over a piece of paper. By exercising biasness because someone holds an unaccredited degree is not rational. Calling CA apporved schools mills is already a manifestation of no regard for state regulations. So what is the use of all these years of RA education if the graduates have no regard for state regulations? My advice is why not walk to the CA office and tell them that they are mill approver. I still think that RA is a good choice over state approved degrees due to its acceptability, but I will not be bias over the holders of state approved degrees. Can't we be a little bit more objective over the discussion of DL?