DETC meeting Jan 11th

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  1. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    Well the DETC is holding their January 11th meeting really soon. Anyone have any idea what’s on the agenda? ANy new schools? Will Nations be on there? So many questions!!!:popcorn:
     
  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Your guess is as good as mine.
     
  3. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    Thanks Ted!
     
  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Here Distance Education and Training Council: Applicant Schools is the list of new applicants.
     
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  5. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    Was that a joke? A dead link? lol
     
  6. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator Staff Member

    This is the most current list that I see.
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    No, it was not a joke. I've fixed the link. :salook:
     
  8. None of those schools are too exciting to me but they might appeal to some... :/
     
  9. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    Did you see there was a new law school in the there as well as a grad school. The latter looks very interesting and appears to be on the up and up the entry requirements and reviews I read. No offense to PF or Ashworth....but the DETC needs schools that are more like Andrew Jackson, some real contact with the instructor in classes of 20-30 students. PR and Ashworth uses markers and you have no interaction with teachers at all. The two apps I'm talking (Abraham Lincoln and University of Fairfax) look like they offer more of a real school feel to them and will help make the DETC more of a stand out. Heck the Univ. of Fairfax is a non-profit to boot.


    University of Fairfax - Information Security Graduate Degree

    Online Law school at Abraham Lincoln University.
     
  10. Hotdillon

    Hotdillon New Member

    The DETC list is a June 2010 list, so it is a little older than I expected. Just out of curiosity though, where does NationsUniversity stand with their accrediation process? Also, for those who already have NU degrees, even if NU does get accredited, wouldnt that mean you still have an unaccredited degree?
    It seems to be a great school and I would like to take classes towards a Master's soon, so I was curious where they stood!!

    Thanks!!
     
  11. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    Who knows at this point with Nations. They are still working on it but have not made the changes needed to get it done. One of those is a proctor system. If Nations get's it then as long as you have not completed your degree you will be fine. Those who have already done so are out of luck. So Hotdillion still waiting till they get it then?
     
  12. Hotdillon

    Hotdillon New Member

    Actually...now sounds like a good time to enroll!! :)
     
  13. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    Noticed this in Nations' Dec newsletter:

    "Accreditation Progress. An updated and expanded Self-Evaluation Report was submitted to the commission that is guiding NU toward accreditation. By the end of this year [2010], we should have a firm idea of what improvements should be made and a timetable for the next steps. The next major phase of the process will be to submit forty-four courses for evaluation by course specialists. The specialists will suggest needed improvements."

    So it sounds like their app is still (slowly) moving along, it will be interesting to see what DETC changes come out of the Jan 11 meeting.
     
  14. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    So today is the decision day. Recall that DETC does not announce the results, whether positive or negative; they rely on the schools to do (or not do) that.

    I find the Trinity matter of real interest. Recall that they had achieved candidacy with their regional accreditor, North Central. Then a senior vice president of Trinity, John Fyffe, issued a long and devastating indictment of a great many extremely negative behaviors by Trinity. Trinity announced they would be suing him, but never did. And North Central quietly backed off.

    As Chip and others have lamented here, DETC has a history of ignoring applicants' past behaviors, including several that were actually claiming accreditation from worthless organizations on the day they got their DETC accreditation. I would predict the same will happen again with Trinity, and there will be much gnashing of hair and tearing of teeth here, and elsewhere, and life as we know it will probably go on.
     
  15. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    Just took a look at Trinity's website, and (while there are of course no announcements yet) I noticed this on their president's Twitter:

    The year 2011 has arrived. It will be remembered as the year when Trinity Seminary met its greatest challenge and won its greatest victory!
    6:28 PM Jan 1st via txt
    Harold F. Hunter (TrinitySemPrez) on Twitter

    So he seems optimistic about their chances ... given that in an email in 2009 a school rep told me that "we could be granted accreditation by June of 2009" I can understand that they would be eager to get this finally done.

    I'm more interested in Nations personally ... not only do they not have all of the baggage that Trinity has, they also are basically free! (Tho whether they remain free when/if they obtain DETC accreditation is another matter ...)
     
  16. GeneralSnus

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  17. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

    I suspect, but do not know for certain, that Trinity did not obtain DETC accreditation. There's nothing about it on their website, which really isn't indicative one way or another. More telling is the fact that Trinity's president hasn't said a word about it on his Twitter account, which he frequently uses. On January 12, he wrote, "Tonight as I savor hazelnut coffee and reflect on a long, hard 2-year Trinity project, I am so proud of all our loyal faculty and staff." This almost certainly seems to be a reference to the accreditation attempt. His next two tweets on January 15 and 16? They were about an Italian restaurant and a Hardee's hamburger. Not a peep about DETC. Also yesterday, the Executive Assistant to Trinity's President tweeted, "Disappointments are just God's way of saying "I've got something better." Be patient,live life, have faith", though this may possibly be a misguided attempt at retweeting. In any event, nothing about DETC appears on any of the candidate's websites.
     
  18. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    It may be too soon. Perhaps on Monday the school(s) will update their site(s) ...
     
  19. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator Staff Member

    If I ran a school that was up for accreditation, the web site would be ready to go with minutes of us getting comfirmation.
     
  20. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    So would I! :) But if I remember correctly, after the last DETC meeting it took a few days for the various schools to update their websites.
     

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