DEAC accredited CiAM earned regional accreditation by WASC

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    DEAC accredited CiAM early in 2019 earned regional accreditation by WASC.

    CiAM dropped ACICS who actually put CiAM on probation in 2018.

    https://www.ciam.edu/about-us/accreditation


    ACICS
    Probation or Equivalent or a More Severe Status: Warning12/17/2018
    Fails to meet agency standards for initial or renewed accreditation
    Renewal of Accreditation 04/04/2019
    Has satisfactorily addressed all compliance concerns from previous actions
    Voluntary Withdrawal06/04/2019

    Distance Education Accrediting Commission
    Accredited since (06/22/2018) Next Review Date (06/30/2021)

    WASC Senior College and University Commission (1) Pre accredited since(02/17/2017) Next Review Date (02/14/2025)
    WASC Senior College and University Commission (2) Accredited since (02/22/2019) Next Review Date (02/17/2023)

    CiAM Offers online MBA.
     
  2. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    According to the WASC web site, this school has a total of twelve FTE students. According to the CiAM web site, 91% of their student population is Asian (it does not specify if they are Asian per se or Asian American.)

    They do show up as an accredited non-profit on the WASC web site. How would a school this small have earned accreditation from WASC? Just speculating, but it's probably that they had a sufficient endowment to meet the WASC standards of financial solvency.

    Nonetheless, with just one program (the MBA) and only 12 students, I would feel quite comfortable in calling this school a joke. And yes, campers, it does mean that a school can be regionally accredited yet also be a farce.
     
  3. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Another note or two . . . I’m sure Josh D. would point this out if he had seen the thread already, but this school does not hold any of the usual program accreditations that one finds in business schools. At $667 per credit hour, the question then becomes why anyone would choose this joke of a school over a reputable and more well known university that has a recognized business accreditation.

    Am I suggesting more discernment on the part of those who post threads about this type of school so that we at DI do not end up giving them more publicity than they deserve? Damn right I am. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    One can study/earn a Boston University online MBA for 24 K, same price.
    AACSB accredited
    BU Ranked 37 MBA in the United States -
    Financial Times Global MBA Ranking, 2019

    So yes, CiAM is expensive.
    The reason I posted it in the accreditation forum is that it has interesting accreditation history.
    Why people choose small private schools over more streamline name recognized schools?
    Maybe less competitive entry requirements, more personalized student/professor ratio.
    Just speculating.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Form I-20.
     
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  6. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I don't find their history all that interesting. At this stage, I don't trust ACICS to offer any meaningfully actionable information.

    As for why students choose it. As Rich notes, visa access is a big one. I don't think anyone is sitting there wistfully thinking about how this school's small class size matters.

    FWIW, a buddy of mine ditched HR to recruit overseas students for a college. He said that students from Asia derive quite a bit of status from having studied in the US. School doesn't really matter much (the one he works at is tiny, overpriced and unheard of outside of the region). But having some US paper in hand is seen as an almost necessary thing for families of certain social standing.

    So I'd venture that it's a bit like choosing to go to medical school at Ross. If you're committed to going to medical school no matter what then it might be your only path forward. If you're committed to coming to the US no matter what then small, inconsequential schools might be your only path forward.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I haven't looked at this website and please pardon my ignorance but if this is a DL-only school then how would students qualify to enter the country?
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

  9. msganti

    msganti Active Member

    I don't see fully online programs there. Their courses are in blended learning format with either 8-week meeting once a week at campus, or 16-week meeting on campus once every 6-8 weeks.
    While this school definitely looks like a setup for F1 students, I am not sure if DHS and ICE will be happy about that.
    But I am really tempted by these "features" :)
    • Hands-on Learning - No Tests or ExamsAll Textbooks Included at No Extra Cost
    • All Textbooks Included at No Extra Cost
    • No GMAT/GRE Requirement
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    When I received an advertisement I checked about them as it was the first time that heard about them it stated online as well.
    I looked at FAQ's and they state that for DL Online the lectures are recorded and posted online. It's the same program online.
     

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