Country Preview: Poland - Inexpensive European Education

No, and it looks like the degrees, especially the DBA, will likely not pass muster with any AICE or NACES member evaluator in US. And @Johann766, Are you sure it's the "New" Jagiellonian in Torun, (or its Czech offshoot) that's H+ on Anabin.? I'm thinking it has to be the old, historical one -and if so, this Torun / Czech DBA might not go very far in Germany. Instead, possibly $2,500 will buy a fair amount of Erdinger Kristall or Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier...

 

Definitely confusing.

 

Well I guess the DBA would get some kind of recognition, surely not as a scientific doctorate but as something else, not sure what. The ENEB MBA is somehow being recognized too, isn´t it?
And yes, the "New" Jagiellonian in Torun is H+ in Anabin, Anabin also includes a link to the website of each University which is listed.

 

Looks like they also offer an EdD https://www.study-edd.eu/

"Graduates of the Ed.D. programme receive a Degree from the Akademia Jagiellońska w Toruniu, Faculty of Administration and Economic Studies in Uherské Hradiště on completion of the Ed.D. programme, entitling the use of the Ed.D. title after the name. Together with the Degree, the graduate will be issued also a Diploma Supplement (“Record of Studies”), which will state the completed study subjects, grades, the topic of the thesis and the name of the thesis supervisor"

 

And a PhD
https://www.study-philology.eu/

"Doctor of Philosophy (D. PHIL) is international managerial study program, which is not included into tertiary education system of the Czech Republic, according to Act about tertiary education. We provide our D. PHIL study program in the Czech Republic with respect to the status of foreign tertiary education institution subsidiary. D. PHIL study program of Akademia Jagiellońska w Toruniu is internationally acknowledged."

 

The sample diploma you can download says at the top "Czech Republic Degree" but the website says it is not included in Czech tertiary education. It is provided with respect to its status as a foreign tertiary education institution. Nothing seems to say it is a Polish diploma.

Is it a Polish diploma (the DBA, DSc, DPhil, EdD)?

 

Below is the sample from the site. Contains diploma, degree (in this case DPhil), length of time (1 year), etc.

 

What made you think about the DSc rather than the DPhil?

Have not read it yet but the DSc download near the bottom of the page appears to be a much better done explanation (vs DPhil).
https://www.study-dsc.eu/

 

Yes - here it's usually recognized as practically anything BUT an MBA. Bachelor's, Grad Certificate, unaccredited degree, etc. Usually, anything but what you signed up for. One Euro member had theirs evaluated as an "advanced bachelor's" IIRC. That was in Belgium.

If you want suspense, variety and a good chance of disappointment - there's always your nation's lotteries. Buy a couple of tickets a week and that $2,500 or equivalent could last quite a while. And you won't have to write any pesky dissertations.

But hey --- I could always be wrong. It happened once in 1994 and again in 2021.

 

Thank you very much for this very sophisticated description.
However you mostly refer to the Czech laws of higher eduation.
The Faculty maybe in the Czech Republic but it is still part of the Polish school, so I assume the Polish law of higher education is the relevant one?

But actually it doesn´t really matter, Czech Republic or Poland, they both seem to allow "propio" degrees.
You described the situation the Czech Republic and in Poland it seems to be allowed too, Collegium Humanum confers DBA´s too and several other Polish private Universities too.

Let me put together a list of propio PhD´s/DBA´s that I´m aware of currently and which are available in English:

-UCAM DBA: 14k Euros, a bit expensive in my opinion
-the new Frech Upgrad DBA: 10k
-we all know everything about UCN+Azteca
-Collegium Humanum DBA: 13k (wow!)
-the new school discussed in this topic: 2,5k

 

It would be interesting to see if Jagiellonian College considers you a graduate of their college as a graduate of the branch campus.

 

I agree. I am not sure what the benefit is of paying 10k plus for a proprio doctorate unless Harvard, Yale, Penn State start to offer them.

 

The WHED entry for Jagiellonian College does say approved for Post Graduate Studies (in Business field).

 

Steve, can you explain more about how they are not titulo proprio.

Both Collegium Humanum (sp) and Jagiellonian College are apparently recognized private Polish High Ed institutions. They have degree granting authority. The doctoral degrees they issue are on their own as post graduate credentials (not recognized as cycle 3 degrees but issued by a government recognized/accredited school).

FYI, I am not in anyway advocating for the value of these programs as I have lots of questions and some concerns.

The DBA (and so on) carry 90 ECTS. That is a little over a year in the US system of credit. That might raise some questions. Of course most people seeing DBA after your name or on a resume won't dig that far unless they are an employer and it is a job requirement.

 

And the one site posted seems to be offering DPhil, EdD, LLD, DBA, and DSc. All with some nuance. For instance, the LLD seems to be DBA curriculum and then a module and dissertation focussed on legal management. But they all appear to be one year programs (a one year DPhil?)

https://www.fves.eu/en/

 

Steve is 100% right. As I said before, the definition of 'titulo propio' seems to have been largely lost on DI.
Lately, it's like some "wine aficionados" in a hobo camp, claiming that anything that costs less than $2.95 a bottle is definitely muscatel.

 

"Post Graduate Studies" does not necessarily include these doctorates. I think tadj mentioned it would be OK for an approved Polish school to award a "post graduate certificate/diploma" but not a DBA - as that is not a recognized degree in the Polish system.