Columbia International University Doctoral Programs

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if this school has been discussed before, but here goes.

    Columbia International University offers a decent amount of online doctoral programs. The tuition is also affordable, from $445 up to $590.

    http://www.ciu.edu/online-degrees/academic-programs

    Ph.D. in the following areas:
    Biblical Studies
    Educational Leadership
    Intercultural Studies
    Organizational Leadership
    Practical Theology
    Theological Studies

    Doctor of Ministerial Leadership

     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    There seems to be a strong religious affiliation, so it would be wise to check to see if that is compatible with what you seek. Otherwise, it seems like another regionally accredited school no one has ever heard of. (Not a bad thing; I graduated from several of those.)

    From Wikipedia: There are seven doctrinal points which students must assent to as a part of their admission to and candidacy for a degree from CIU. These are biblical inspiration, natural separation of humanity from God, salvation by grace through faith in Christ, the historical doctrine of the Trinity, the bodily resurrection of Christ from the dead, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the believer, and the evangelical mandate to witness to the gospel of Christ.
     
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  3. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I never heard of this school until someone asked about it in a doctoral group this evening. At first, I thought I was gonna discover an unaccredited school. To my surprise, this school even has a numeric ranking on U.S. News. I guess it's not that bad. Lowkey is better sometimes. Liberty is well known but not for the best reasons.

    Interesting. That's typical of Christian schools. I had to agree to the doctrinal statements and write a Christian belief statement when I applied to Southeastern University (FL). I ended up declining the admissions offer because I felt like a hypocrite. I don't recall being required to agree to any doctrinal statements when I was admitted to Abilene Christian University nor Liberty University (who knows - I don't read the fine prints). Still, these schools have their doctrinal statements. For the most part, I don't think the typical online student really cares about these doctrinal statements. So, I don't think Columbia International University's doctrinal points will be a deterrent for most students who are religious but may not be a devout Christian.
     
  4. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Fairly well known in Evangelical circles.
     
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    Garp Well-Known Member

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  6. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Does Columbia International University offer wrong institutional name spelling? I am looking for something like dropping the "International" in the diploma. Something likes this:

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  7. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    It's funny how easily people forget that "Columbia" is a name that extends well beyond Columbia University.
     
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  8. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    CO229104_Columbia_Outlet_logo_v2.jpg

    ...and then there's also Colombia.
     
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I like the seal on that diploma!" Suits a Latin-hugger (guilty!). I've never before seen "Novum Eboracum" but I knew instantly it was literally "New York." "Eboracum" is what the Romans called the city of York, when they conquered what is now England, about 2,000 years ago. The Latin name stuck, for written purposes, for many centuries after the Romans packed and went home.
     
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  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    IIRC, Liberty doesn't require it for their DL students.
     
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  11. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I went to check because they used to have a pared down version that they expected DL students in their divinity programs to adhere to, but when I Googled "Liberty University Seminary" I was presented with an ad for San Francisco Theological Seminary proudly proclaiming they welcome LGBT+ students. Well played, SFTS. Though I doubt the regular person looking for Liberty will be as eager to check out their website as I.

    But the pared down version was, as I recall, so generalized almost anyone even tangentially affiliated with Christianity could probably qualify.
     
  12. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    One of NYPD's highest-ranking Muslim officers was a classmate in one of my courses at Liberty.
     
  13. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    As you are not enrolled in any of the seminary programs at Liberty, to my knowledge, this does not really have much to do with what I posted, though.
     
  14. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    This thread was not about seminaries.
     
  15. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Neither is this thread about Liberty University and yet, here we are. Discussions evolve from the original subject line.

    The seminary at Liberty University has a faith statement. It's pretty liberal and I believe it applies to online as well as on the ground students. That's pretty much it. Nothing to do with the CJ program at Liberty, just an expansion on a statement made before it about whether Liberty University requires adherence to the faith statement for online students. My comment was not off topic. Yours was insofar as you clearly did not fully read the comment to which you were responding. No need to double down on it. We can all just walk away.
     
  16. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  18. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    The only minimum requirement I know of at Liberty is that chapter 2 (lit review) should be at least 30 pages. I've seen qual dissertations that are 227 pages at Liberty but most are 150+. Qual tends to be shorter. I saw a UPenn qual dissertation that was 107 pages total (including front and end matters).

    Btw, there's a publicly accessible website with Liberty dissertations and projects.

    https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/etd/
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I’ve only seen one—from an employee. It was awful. Tiny, insignificant project with insufficient sampling. But I’m determined not to let one example stand for the whole bunch.
     
  20. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Scanning a few of them they seem comparable to the two Louisiana Baptist University dissertations I could find. There was nothing stunning but my look was cursory. A few were in the 130 page range and one was 179 and another 209 in terms of length.

    Of course Liberty has a huge/massive advantage over LBU. Liberty is accredited with a billion dollar endowment and clout. An LU graduate may well find themselves on the tenure track at an accredited University. An LBU graduate, not so much (unless they were already on it). Well, not at all is probably more accurate.
     

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