CollegeHints Promotes Another Less-Than-Wonderful School.

Yes. "We." Of course. Interesting bunch to affiliate one's self with.

 

Hi Jack: I dasn't speak for Mark, but

"KW...among other legitimate offerings" means that KW, a legitimate offering, is listed with others of its own (legitimate) kind,

while

"KW...among other, legitimate offerings" means that KW, an offering whose legitimacy is absent or questionable, is listed with other offerings of a different (legitimate) kind.

 

You know, it's posts like this that make this place less and less a valuable source of information. It's all about childishness and one-upsmanship.

Come on, folks. Time to grow up.




Tom Nixon

 

It was a response to a cesspool comment. Of course it's childish.

 

It is key to note the difference from merely posting there and actually joining in and rationalizing the shennanigans going on at CollegeHints. Several people have managed to post a few times contrary to the owner's desired theme. Some others, like Gus and I, have posted too much along that vein and have gotten banned.

The use of first-person plural when describing CollegeHints is a dead giveaway. For others, one must merely see which posts/thoughts they most like to snuggle up with when criticizing others. Kissing up to CollegeHints demeans one's credibility, just as having some people irrationally inflate the validity and utility of CCU has actually diminished the school. Too bad. CCU deserves better. CollegeHints has exactly what it wants--and deserves.

P.S.: No amount of rationalization can defend the promotion of diploma mills in CollegeHints' advertisements. The notion that this behavior makes them more "open" is ludicrous. It makes them promoters of illegitimate, and sometimes illegal, degrees. Nothing more.

 

I absolutely agree. It is plain misleading, self-serving, selfish, hurtful, and dishonest.

 

> It is plain misleading, self-serving, selfish, hurtful, and
> dishonest.

And why does nobody have one word of condemnation for Google, which (unlike CollegeHints) approves the individual ads?

Are we even sure that ads for diploma mills are harmful? People who want to buy "degrees" for no work will find the mills anyway, with a search engine. People not interested in such "degrees" may be barely aware they're available, hence might be fooled by them if the ads aren't there to raise their consciousness.

 

Google isn't without blame, but they don't specialize in this subject; CollegeHints does (or pretends to). Besides, Glen has indicated his willingness to accept them (and the revenues they bring).

Diploma mill ads don't " raise their consciousness." Those ads are designed specifically to do just the opposite. That the host board purports to discuss legitimate distance learning only makes this more insidious.

The notion that people find and use diploma mills anyway should be refuted on at least two counts. First, it is belied by the many stories we read about (and from) people who are genuinely fooled into thinking they're dealing with legitimate, nontraditional schools. Second, we have a responsibility ti take the lead in these matters. You can't beat 'em by joining 'em, and you might end up actually promoting 'em.

 

Yes, I understand. I suppose I was thinking that, considering the source, the meaning was clear regardless of the comma.
Jack

 

I for one took Mark's comma comment as a little funny. Perhaps I was wrong but I love interpretting everything I can as funny.

Note that I left commas out of this post out of laziness rather than trying to be funny.

 

OK, that's two wake up calls for me. I could easily be off base here. Perhaps I'm just too tired to appreciate the humor. It's really no big deal to me. Sorry, Mark.
Jack

 

If one looks at the cold hard facts it can be clearly seen that DegreeInfo is a far greater promoter of 'degree mills' than CollegeHints, and that the 'King of Degree Mills' has posted more times on this subject at DegreeInfo than all the combined posts on the subject at CH.
Just do the sums if you don't believe me.
Dr Anatidae (Knightsbridge)

 

Keep in mind that in Dr. Dr. Hayes' Bizarro-world, it seems that his various alma maters, each of which have often been described as degree mills, (including by the State of Oregon) are actually the pinnacle of legitimacy. And regionally accredited universities are the degree mills (particularly if they have any association with Rich Douglas.)

In that context, his statement makes perfect sense.

Or perhaps he simply meant that since he has posted a greater number of times here than at Collegehints, then this board is a greater promoter of degree mills. In that context, I would agree.

 

Okay I would be happy to. In order for me to do the sums, I need to know who 'King of Degree Mills' actually is? Please let me know.

Thank you,
Bill

 

To Jack, Janko, and Bill: Thanks for helping to make me a controversial figure.

Rich Douglas wrote:

> First, it is belied by the many stories we read about (and
> from) people who are genuinely fooled into thinking they're
> dealing with legitimate, nontraditional schools.

OK, I grant that someone looking at Columbus University's Website alone might be fooled into thinking it's legitimate (although the course descriptions for the "Bachelor of Holistic Studies, Mythology and the Mind" http://www.columbusu.com/new/myth_bhs.htm are rather odd, and none of the other programs seem to have course descriptions).

But if one sees the Columbus ad in a row of ads that also includes things like:

-- how big a fool would one have to be?

> You can't beat 'em by joining 'em

Next thing you'll tell me that we can't take their money by taking their money.

 

You're most welcome, when Barbara Walters interviews you, just remember that us little guys are rooting for you.

 

I spent some time this afternoon at CollegeHints. The discussions there seem quite reasonable, and in many ways less manic than here.

I hope it survives and prospers, unlike so many of the other alternatives.

 

Wouldn't that be Rich. Stepped in a lot of turds tiptoing down the R/A path.

 

Amazingly reasonable.

 

The whole world knows who the "King of Degree Mills" really is and who are his five fanatical followers and admirers.
But the time is now long overdue for these people to cease promoting degree mills.
Dr Anatidae (Knightsbridge)