California Pacific University

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Vinipink, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    This is very odd to me. I looked in to CPU about a year ago and they did not accept any payment from employers, government . . . etc

    The whole website is a mess. Why did they make the site active with all these glaring errors and possible miss-truths.

    Why didnt the new owners retain the domain instead of ? Where is the new Catalog for the school?

    - Michael
  2. CHARLES1980

    CHARLES1980 New Member

    I'm not the richest guy in the world and I know money is hard to come by sometimes, but you would think they would just pay the $5k and keep their integrity. Or again, just call it quits...Wikipedia editors are going to eat this up.
  3. LarryRappaport

    LarryRappaport New Member


    I called the California Bureau for Post Secondary Education (BPPE) and they stated that CPU was ordered to cease operation and cannot issue any assignments or courses due nor issue any degrees due to "Order of Abatement" and they must pay a fine due to non compliance of an annual report that needed to be submitted. They must also re-file for State Approval. Degrees issued after August 17 2016 are invalid. CPU's application to renew for State Approval was denied on July 17th due to non compliance of filing a annual report for 2013 and they had 30 days to appeal it to which they failed to do so. Any degree issued after August 17, 2016 is considered invalid. Degrees issues from 1976 to August 2016 are considered Valid. As for the new website, I am not sure what is going on with that. The information is misleading. CPU has done fine for over 40 years by being state approved so I'm a bit confused as to all the information on the new website. At least they were not shut down due Fraud etc.. They simply dropped the ball and it's possible that the owner could have personal problems that denied him the opportunity to keep CPU going. CPU is closed right now until they fix the issues with the California Bureau of Post Secondary Education. I would think a University like this would have 5k to pay but it appears that they don't due to lack of enrollment over the past couple years. 3 to 5 students a year will not pay the bills.
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Well, you could phone them, I guess. (Or not. I won't.) Following received a few weeks ago:

    My guess? A quote: "Somebody swallowed a bullshit pill." :smile: (A line from my favourite Brit. TV show - New Tricks. Cranky police retirees return to form a cold-case squad.)

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  5. CHARLES1980

    CHARLES1980 New Member

    You're right 3 students isn't going to cut it. Surely the school could just take out a small loan or the owner could pull out a credit card and call it a day. Recoup and execute some strong marketing strategies to focus on an older crowd of professionals. If the state of California recognizes BPPE approved degrees the way they do regionally accredited ones, have your main focus be Californians. This seems to be a no brainer. Oh and no unrecognized accrediting agencies.
  6. LarryRappaport

    LarryRappaport New Member

    True. I checked their website and it appears that it's now under construction CPU | Home I'm curious to see if they are going to call it quits or try to redeem and apply for state approval again as well as comply with the BPPE's new 2017 accreditation laws.

    We shall see
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It's a wonder to me that BPPE hasn't slapped them with a fine of about $250K for putting up that back-door site, thereby operating without approval and in contravention of BPPE Abatement Order.

    Yes. It does. The whole thing. I like a man who "calls 'em as he sees 'em." :smile:

    Not yet, anyway. But I wouldn't blame any IAO "Accredited" school for constantly looking over its shoulder. :shock:

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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    BPPE schools' degrees recognized on par with RA? Never. Not even in Hollywood! :laugh:

  9. CHARLES1980

    CHARLES1980 New Member

    That website was horrendous. I'll never forgive myself for visiting.
  10. CHARLES1980

    CHARLES1980 New Member

    Maybe not RA, but if the curriculum and the degree are both verifiable - go for it. Until recently, if you typed in CPU, you would see nothing but great things via the web. And with a strong resume, sky is the limit. Now if someone walks into the interviewer's office with the same skillset and a degree from Texas A&M, then its a wrap. Lol
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    RA - That's what you said, Charles. Then you said:

    Oh, I assure you. DEFINITELY not RA. No maybe.

    I won't forgive you either. (Just kidding) :jester:

    G'night. Probably see you tomorrow.

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  12. CHARLES1980

    CHARLES1980 New Member

    Poor choice of words...
  13. CHARLES1980

    CHARLES1980 New Member

    Hopefully you won't have a nightmare of the millish back-door CPU website. I've seen horror movies less intimidating.
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Looks like we won't be seeing that version of the site any more. Replaced by "under construction." Let's see what happens...

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  15. CHARLES1980

    CHARLES1980 New Member

    I think it's a wrap, I saw them on the denied school list on the BPPE website. Again, great school and a hell of a run.
  16. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Who owns California Pacific University now? Is it possible to resurrect this school. As a DBA alumnus, might be interesting in buying the school? Please email me if you know what is going on: [email protected] . After many years of knowing Dr. Dalton, it pains me to see the school (a good school) closed for just being small. By the way, he always announced himself as "Charlie Dalton" and called me Dr. Wagner, after I graduated in 2003. I was fond of him and his wise counsel. He is even in the acknowledgements of my Ph.D. Dissertation.


    Dave Wagner, A.A., B.S., M.B.A., D.B.A., Ph.D.
  17. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    If you're interested in starting a school, you know what, I am too!! We could possibly team up with a few members of these online boards and make a great "online based" school. I wonder the should go for accreditation, I am looking at both NA/International accreditation and secondary/programmatic accreditation... Oh wait, I'll go on a sabbatical and decide then. In regards to CPU, they've been closed for about two years now. Link:
  18. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Any entrails remaining should be here:
  19. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I am always interested in talking. What sort of school did you want to start?
  20. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Watch closely, kids, you just might be seeing a degree mill in the making.

    As Mickey said to Judy, "Hey, kids, let's put on a university!"

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