BEST UNACCREDITED PhD PROGRAM

Just out of curiosity, what is the PhD tuition at CPU?

 

I'm not sure what CPU charges for a Ph.D. I am pretty sure from the school's Performance Fact Sheet they've had no grads at any level for a couple of years. You can find it on their site http://www.cpu.edu/reports/7-2013_CPU_SCHOOL_PERFORMANCE_FACT_SHEET.pdf

This page California Pacific University - College Crunch says that CPU charges $4,450 for a ten-course MBA. I'm guessing, then, that the 12 doctoral courses shown, plus the required dissertation or project-related work (Proposal plus Project, or Proposal plus Dissertation) would likely put the cost of a Ph.D. somewhere ~$10,000 or thereabouts.

Incidentally - I've long liked CPU best of the unaccredited schools, though I'm not in the market for an unaccredited degree, myself. I DID, however come across an interesting case of "be careful who does your advertising" related to CPU.

One site used this rather ...um, unorthodox English, writing about the founder of CPU:

"Dr. Personal and disappointment Dalton A young husband and father of experience in America swanky earnings from day and night in a living for making a degree of struggle was born in a week and on his career in retail sale in order to advance." :smile: :smile:

It's here: California Pacific University ~ College Dekho

Johann

 

Is there such a thing as a rigorous unaccredited PHD? Unless a person does not value his/her time then there is no need to spend 5 years slaving over an unaccredited Phd.

 

What Johann said.

 

Does anyone know where I can find a cardiologist with an unaccredited MD? I'm not really concerned about the accreditation of her/his degree, I'm more concerned about getting by-pass surgery at a really good price. :shock:

 

Well, since it's too early for April Fool posts, I'll answer seriously that medical tourism to India is worth considering. A guy at my gym had quintuple bypass there for a small fraction of the US price including travel. This place is run by Americans: Medical Tourism India | America

 

If someone thinks he can make a contribution to his field and not interested in a teaching position rather than persuing a doctorate (especially an unacredited one) why not spend this time researching and writing a book or presenting papers. Self publishing through Amazon or Lulu low cost.

 

Sometimes people want the structure of a formal education. They just don't have a particular need for accreditation. This is particularly common in religious education. Lack of accreditation does not necessarily mean inferior quality. Charles Stanley, one of the most popular evangelists and authors today, earned his graduate and doctorate from Luther Rice decades before the school was accredited.

 

There are many wealthy and successful dropouts from high schools, colleges and universities - having a piece of paper wasn't an impediment to these people. Sadly, there are many wealthy and successful people with diploma mills' degrees. Therefore, there should be no surprise that you may find a few successful and wealthy people with unaccredited PhDs.

Accreditation is evidence based. What/whose standards are unaccredited PhDs? A robust unaccredited phd is a misnomer. I should know, I have an unaccredited religious doctorate- a collosal waste of time and energy. Looking back, it was an unsatisfying shortcut to a doctorate.

 

If you don't mind me asking, from where was the degree earned? I am certainly not advocating the utility or quality of every UA degree, but I am suggesting that the lack of accreditation does not necessarily mean a lack of quality. There are many factors that go into accreditation criteria, only some of those have to do with the quality of content and instruction. I think we can agree on that. I think we can also agree that, though a school might be accredited, doesn't necessarily mean that the education was one of quality or rigor.

 

I get what you're saying, RAM - honestly. :smile: But here's a little story that you may (I hope) find interesting:

I remember a poster on another forum - a pretty smart guy, looking to complete a degree in mid-life. He worked in aviation and got a certain amount of free plane travel -- so he and his wife saved thousands on dental work by having it done in Costa Rica. IIRC, he said the work was excellent and cost about a fifth of the US price. Perhaps the same applies to medical treatment of all kinds. I have no idea whether it does or not , but hey -- I guess it's worth thinking about.

Myself, I don't have to worry. I live in Canada. If I need medical treatment -- including a bypass, may that day never come -- it's free. And guaranteed, the surgeon will have gone to a proper Medical school.

Johann

 

I would say that the best unaccredited program is the one that's free...

 

That is a very narrow minded perspective, sir.

 

This is the only unaccredited PhD program that I would ever consider.

Western Institute for Social Research

It is very small. It is very difficult to gain admission. The quality is rated as being exceptionally high. At the risk of seeming high schoolish, I dare anyone to show me another unaccredited program of similar quality.

 

You are correct, i took a narrow minded perspective. However, having a very broad minded perspective does not change the fundamentals. An unaccredited PhD is simple that, unaccredited. To then give it attributes of accreditation, like rigor, could be misleading.

 

I have to agree. After living on this board for several years, I'm very certain that the work required in a doctoral program is colossal. Why in the world would anyone GO THROUGH an unaccredited doctoral program? To complete the work (presumably) of that caliber, and then not be able to hold up your head and present your degree with pride? For it not to count? IF it's a rigorous program, then all the worse and waste.

 

Well, it's supposed to anyway. But, some of the accredited programs I studied through were about as challenging as it is for an adult to color inside the lines.