"Berkeley" still in the news

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by deanhughson, Jul 12, 2005.

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  1. deanhughson

    deanhughson New Member

  2. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    The Berkley site is still up. I was just there.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Yes it's Berkley.

    For unaccredited - they never claimed bogus accreditation.
    at some point they had some japanise office, but never fake accreditation.

    I feel bad for the people who got riped off, 2000 per diploma.

    I read other testimony and from what I read everyone provided projects, work.

    So wile substandard I never heard that they actually sold degree

    for no work.
    But I only read maybe 3 or 4 cases we are talking about thousands and DA has better evidense that i.

    They were unlicensed in their state were the licensing is strongly inforced, i'm surprised that it took so long to shut them down.

    Learner
     
  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Actually, the Pennsylvania "school" is called "Berkley." There is also an unaccredited "University of Berkeley" in Berkeley, CA.
     
  5. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    From the 'Daily Californian' (the UCB student newspaper):

    So, what was the fraud exactly? Use of the confusing name or sales of bogus degrees?

    This is another insidious trend since 9-11, scam artists trying to fly under the flag of "homeland security". Who would question our brave police, firefighters and emergency workers? And since the security field is growing rapidly, there's lots of demand for credentials, awarded yesterday if possible. It's like fruit hanging from a tree.

    American as baseball and apple pie! It's one of our most cherished national traditions.

    I agree with Alan about many degree mill customers being willing co-conspirators. That's probably most true for the full-frontal mills that simply sell diplomas.

    But accreditation does have an important consumer-protection function for those employers and clients who care about education.

    That's reassuring.

    If these incompetent idiots couldn't even tell the difference between 'UC Berkeley' and the 'University of Berkley', then why in the hell should anyone trust their company's structural engineering conclusions?

    I'd like to see the State of California sue this engineering company to recover all fees paid for the bridge project, plus enough punitive damages to drive the firm out of business. There might be criminal violations of the business and professional code as well.

    I agree with John.

    But the thing is, if an employer is so incompetent that it can't catch the difference betweeen a degree from 'UC Berkeley' and one from 'University of Berkely', then what's to prevent people from simply lying?

    I mean, just tell people that you have a degree from UC Berkeley, even if you don't. If they don't bother verifying the degree with Berkeley, they aren't ever going to know. So just lie your f'ing head off and save yourself the thousands of dollars that you would have paid to a degree mill. Buy some heroin with with the money you save or something.
     
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  6. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Yeah. What yuns said. There is a suburb of Detroit called and spelled Berkley. Hence the pseudo-name, mail drop, etc. Everyone's erie (or is that eerie?) feeling has been justified.
     
  7. marilynd

    marilynd New Member

    Couldn't find the "University of Berkeley" via Google, only UCB, the Michigan/Pennsylvania "school," and the Berkley Business College in Spain (which calls itself--perhaps with tongue in cheek--the BBC).

    Do they have a Web site?

    marilynd
     
  8. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    Spell it University of Berkley. The web site is still up.
     
  9. marilynd

    marilynd New Member

    Thanks, Rob, but Ted specifically differentiated between the "University of Berkley" and the "University of Berkeley."

    It's the latter I can't find.

    marilynd
     
  10. mineralhh

    mineralhh New Member

    then try again :) Just copy and paste the above and boom!
     
  11. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    This is what I have in my data base for the University of Berkeley in Berkeley:

    "No connection whatsoever with the University of California at Berkeley, two blocks away. Run from an Asian-student job-finding service. Their first advertisements appeared in the Berkeley newspapers in September, 2000. The small type does appropriately explain that they have received temporary interim approval from the state of California to operate for at least 90 days, or until there is a site visit. It is hard for us to imagine that they will be permitted to use this name. The university seal has the date 1974, which would seem to predate the establishing of the university by 26 years."

    The phone number that was in the ad no longer works. My guess is that they didn't get their approval and are no longer operational. I'll try to drive past the address this week.
     
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Dr. Bear wrote:
    You know I must say I'm not surprised.IIRC universities run from employment agencies are low on the approval list.Now if it was a dry cleaners or a malt shop that might have been a different story.
    :)
     
  13. marilynd

    marilynd New Member

    Thanks, John . . . , uh Dr. B . . . , uh, uh . . . Dr. Bear.

    [Exactly how do you address an icon?]

    ;)

    marilynd
     
  14. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

  15. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    marilynd: "Thanks, John . . . , uh Dr. B . . . , uh, uh . . . Dr. Bear. [Exactly how do you address an icon?]"

    John: John

    -------------------------
    For the record, my last ten emails addressed thus:
    John: 6
    Dr. Bear: 2
    Doc: 1
    S**t-for-Brains: 1
     
  16. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Here's how I've been addressed my last ten emails.


    3 Home Owner
    1 Looking for f*** friend
    5 Medicine without perscriptions
    1 Bill
     
  17. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    "Heeeeeere's Johnny!"
     
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Dr Bear said:

    "No connection whatsoever with the University of California at Berkeley, two blocks away. Run from an Asian-student job-finding service. Their first advertisements appeared in the Berkeley newspapers in September, 2000. The small type does appropriately explain that they have received temporary interim approval from the state of California to operate for at least 90 days, or until there is a site visit. It is hard for us to imagine that they will be permitted to use this name. The university seal has the date 1974, which would seem to predate the establishing of the university by 26 years."


    Gee that's quite an approval process Calif. has going on!!
     
  19. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    They aren't approved.
     
  20. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Bill said:
    "They aren't approved"

    But they were for 90 days. Based on what? So BPVEE gets phone call to make site visit to employment office because of alledged academic activites that are going on that may require approval AND THEY GO? And it's called U of Berkley BUT it's (this is important now)not related to the UC school only 2 blocks away? :rolleyes:
     

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